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Knightmare
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 Posted - 2005/08/22 : 09:39:01
sounds like policestate tactics to me y'all...
damn, I'm gonna repost this shit on another board if you don't mind.
this needs to be spread 2 ravers, gabbers, junglists and all partyppl worldwide
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djelmo
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Posted - 2005/08/22 : 11:17:13
i really dont understand your country im afraid, why do the police do this in america in the so called land of freedom, i suppose fox news had to headline of ' great partiotic policemen liberate america corrupted youth from the horrors of having a good time ' i heard about this rave law that was meant to come into effect in america, has this happened already?
(btw im not slating ya country but i think its hypocritical of your goverment to tell the world all about freedom when there blatantly taking yours away, this is the way i see it anyhow from reading all these posts here)
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B.C
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Posted - 2005/08/22 : 12:03:21
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Originally posted by BobbyRitalin:
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someone tell me that doesnt sound nazi to you
it does not sound nazi to me, mainly because the nazi's did unbeliveable war crimes on massive ammounts of people for no other reason but total world dommination and racial purity.
I do not agree with you at all when you post on this subject.
drugs are bad, if one does drugs, then they should be subject to the reprocussions of their actions. Etards are the ones who have ruined it for the ones that do not do drugs. Look at any television show or newspaper article that speaks on this subject and you will see pictures of e'd out candy ravers chattering their gums talking about plur and peace and love.
young people are turning up at raves in droves to eat up designer drugs that are made to excelerate the music and rush of the moment.
but don't forget that drugs like those are illegal and you run the risk of getting arrested for such activities.
Yes, I'm almost 30 years old, yes I go to parties, yes I Dj hardcore music. And yes it sometimes makes me uncomfortable to be around people that are on drugs doing things that they sure as hell wouldn't do in the real world. Also, it makes me uncomfortable to know that people may be rocking out to my tunes on pillz or acid and don't even give a sh!t about me or the other dj's in that matter.
Would it not be more sensible/econimacal to use a tenth of the resources to ensure there are little or no drugs entering these liscenced parties by thorough searching from police at the event, rather than hurting people?
I can't see how actions like these could be justified, I honestly can't.
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whispering
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Posted - 2005/08/22 : 12:20:27
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Originally posted by B.C:
I can't see how actions like these could be justified, I honestly can't.
Me neither.
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ryg0r
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Posted - 2005/08/22 : 12:48:13
DJsqeak - Massive Props.
It pisses me off. I try to like cops. I try to get along with them and do nothing to offend and co-operate with them. I know that their purpose is to stop crime and protect the people that pay their wages (ie the taxpayer).
But what I have read is a gross injustice. The promotors should not only take this to the courts, but um.....erm....*thinks of some fight-the-power/raise-the-fist action*
Thats aside from the point however. The point is that a legal event was (for lack of a better word) destroyed by illegal means.
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Also, it makes me uncomfortable to know that people may be rocking out to my tunes on pillz or acid and don't even give a sh!t about me or the other dj's in that matter.
I'm not trying to slate you man, but if that IS the case - don't dj. I learnt a while ago, that you have to take the good parts of the scene with the bad. Rave music exists for raves. People take drugs at raves. By making/playing this music you are inadvertantly supporting drug use, and if you don't like it - don't make/play rave music.
Drugs are almost every bit the scene as the music is.
Anyway, things like this don't combat the drug abuse problem.
You cannot kill the supply. For each dealer that you catch, there are 3 willing to take his place. You have to kill the demand.
Yes, I'd love to see a drug-free rave (my first rave was a drug free rave!) but until ravers don't take drugs, the scene will constantly fueled by it. Its a sad reality. The idea of raves, the ethos behind it all was freedom. Freedom to do what ever you wanted. Free to take/not take drugs. Each raver never criticising the next for what they were doing. Of course, that was the good old days, not in the jaded scene that we have now.
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ryg0r
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Posted - 2005/08/22 : 13:05:47
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Originally posted by Comet:
I agree with everything you posted here, Bobby. Nothing more I can add to it.
I also wanted to note that I didn't see one guy point a gun at someone. I watched it again a couple times and I can't see where any of them did that once.
Um, he's refering to events he saw.
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The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total. People were trying to document what was happening out there. The police saw one guy filming and ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and luckily.. his friend grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage. That's not all though. Out of 1,500 people, there's sure to be more footage.
Obviously they are still piecing together what footage they can. But seeing as cameras were forcefully confiscated, its going to be a little hard to have footage.
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on the ****ing cops videos they have 2 or 3 cops on someone who has a gun pointed at ppl
Videos taken from cop cars? Videos made by cops? Obviously not the footage from the rave.
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They had liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car on the way in). Oh, I suppose I should mention that they arrested all the security guards for possession.
It sounds like the promoters were doing their absolute best to make it a drug-free event.
They had everything they needed. Insurance, liscences, security guards and permission from the land owner. They did everything right and by the book. It was all legal.
Anyone that says this isn't a gross injustice obviously agrees with facism. Yes, you haters are killing the scene. If you don't have raves, you don't have rave music. Its very simple.
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SERA
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Posted - 2005/08/22 : 13:50:32
that is simply disgusting. it should not happen. but that is the way the world is heading...
thats made me angry.
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kathryn
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Posted - 2005/08/22 : 13:54:51
To think my kids have to grow up in a world thats heading for destruction 
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tunnelrush
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Posted - 2005/08/22 : 16:12:51
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Originally posted by DJsqeak:
Now.. let's get the facts straight here.
you can see the Police State of America at work.
um your from the UK, kinda harsh no?...^^and that's not a "fact" more like oppinion.
Good post but dude i wouldnt post negative shit happening in this world and say "Oh but this is all of europe doing (insert ****ed up incident here)"
Ill make sure never to go to Utah though...**** all the nonsense. that sucks
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mnmcandiez
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Posted - 2005/08/22 : 17:40:00
cops suck
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SixFeet
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Posted - 2005/08/22 : 18:27:44
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Originally posted by BobbyRitalin:
They have every right to break it up under the crack house law. know your enemy my friend. don't go to unlicensed parties. don't swing on cops because they will kill you.
fact is though at any big event whether it be trance, hardcore, hip hip, rap there are always going to be people there with illegal substances and objects such as weapons (especially in the states) so how come none of those get shut down, it isn't just hardcore events that people do it at
just because it is law doesn't make it right, all that law is doing just letting the government tighten there control over everything they want and use that a few people will have drugs at the place as a justification for stopping it, hell imagine if they had passed it back in the years when blacks were protesting for equal rights.......
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Originally posted by BobbyRitalin:drugs are bad, if one does drugs, then they should be subject to the reprocussions of their actions.
yes i totally agree the people that decide to take drugs they run the risk of criminal punishment but how come due to the small minority the majority have to suffer, just becuase there is one bad apple in the bunch do they all have to be punished?
why don't they get the police to help at the evet, have plain clothed cops go in undercover and get them arresting the people distributing them instead of raiding and hurting people, surely that makes more sense, instead they used fascist force to quell it
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Roberticus
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Posted - 2005/08/22 : 19:10:54
I hope that never happens again, ever.
Having troubles viewing the film, but reading that is already disgusting...
I hope those cops will get into hell of a lot of trouble...
When did this happen? I mean have some news station already told the world about it?
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Roberticus
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Posted - 2005/08/22 : 19:13:49
I hope that never happens again, ever.
Having troubles viewing the film, but reading that is already disgusting...
I hope those cops will get into hell of a lot of trouble...
When did this happen? I mean have some news station already told the world about it?
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tha_cheek
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Posted - 2005/08/22 : 21:06:27
its a ***** disgrace breaking that rave up, souns likeit was ***** scary
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Uproar
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Posted - 2005/08/22 : 21:10:34
Why did they stop the rave when it was legal?
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