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cooperjazzy55
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 Posted - 2006/09/08 : 20:06:05
Ok, so ive bin into the scene for a good few years and the questions always been on mind, what is the difference between the sub-genre's of hardcore. I think i have a few ideas of some.
Im asking because i want to clear this up on my mind and yes I may sound like a newbie but i dont care because I know im not, I just wanna know :D
Ok so the only one i really have an idea on is upfront which means new/unreleased/fresh/brand new etc etc
But havent got a clue on the others like freeform etc, please clue me in people, many thanks :D
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Underloop
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Posted - 2006/09/08 : 20:31:08
Upfront is your trancey raverbaby/Dougal and Gammer style sound. Also sometimes called UK Hardcore
Freeform is that bit harder, more acidy - kind of like hard dance on speed (think Sharkey, Kevin Energy, Lost Soul - anything on Nu Energy)
Gabber is tough as nails, distorted kicks. Think Tommyknocker, last half of Scott brown mixes.
Breakbeat Hardcore is that kind of sound thats halfway between hardcore and DnB. funnily enough its all based around breakbeats. Artists such as Luna C/Cru LT, Hattrixx, Ponder and HB all have been known to dabble witht he old Breakbeats.
Theres a few to get your teeth into at least. No doubt someone will come along to give a description of wardrobecargaragesinfulcheesecakeinatinwithacatthathasrabiescore in a short while
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Jax
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Posted - 2006/09/08 : 20:34:08
cant beat a bit of wardrobecargaragesinfulcheesecakeinatinwithacatthathasrabiescore lol
nice sum up there underloop!
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clarke101
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Posted - 2006/09/08 : 22:59:36
I would have to disagree with the Breakbeat hardcore explanation.
It does not have to be DnB crossover stuff. Its Hardcore which use breakbeats
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The Doc
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Posted - 2006/09/08 : 23:11:03
quote:
Originally posted by Underloop:
Upfront is your trancey raverbaby/Dougal and Gammer style sound. Also sometimes called UK Hardcore
Freeform is that bit harder, more acidy - kind of like hard dance on speed (think Sharkey, Kevin Energy, Lost Soul - anything on Nu Energy)
Gabber is tough as nails, distorted kicks. Think Tommyknocker, last half of Scott brown mixes.
Breakbeat Hardcore is that kind of sound thats halfway between hardcore and DnB. funnily enough its all based around breakbeats. Artists such as
Luna C/Cru LT, Hattrixx, Ponder and HB all have been known to dabble witht he old Breakbeats.
Theres a few to get your teeth into at least. No doubt someone will come along to give a description of wardrobecargaragesinfulcheesecakeinatinwithacatthathasrabiescore in a short while
sorry Underloop but I agree slightly with your descriptions (its very hard to do with main genres) but I would definately say your descriptions sound from 2/3 years ago!
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lucificifus
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Posted - 2006/09/09 : 00:31:56
Hardcore Breaks --> The OOOOLD Stuff 
Breakbeat Hardcore --> The New Stuff 
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CDJay
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Posted - 2006/09/09 : 01:50:34
No, Hardcore Breaks is pretty much an entirely seperate genre to the hardcore scene.
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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2006/09/09 : 02:14:39
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Originally posted by Underloop:
....wardrobecargaragesinfulcheesecakeinatinwithacatthathasrabiescore.
Does this have Breakbeat in it, and
if so, and if it's a bit like sped-up D&B,
shouldn't it be called Breakfast?
(also, if it's made using commercially available loops would that be Readybrek?)
....oh yeh, and is Upfront the same a Yfront?
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Samination
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Posted - 2006/09/09 : 09:20:11
Gabber's actually fast than what Scott Brown usually plays isn't it?
the collective name for what Neophyte, Scott Brown and (maybe) Tommyknocker is making is Rotterdam Hardcore, or as the Dutch themself rather prefer, Hard Style.
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whispering
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Posted - 2006/09/09 : 09:25:55
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Originally posted by DjSamination:
Gabber's actually fast than what Scott Brown usually plays isn't it?
AFAIK, the records are as slow as in any Hardcore style, but in Dutch events they play the music faster. Which sucks IMO, cause i buy the CD's, so i get my Hardcore with too slow BPM :(
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Dj Doreetoh
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Posted - 2006/09/09 : 11:54:35
ive got a full list of every sub / micro genre under hardcore, hardstyle, gabber so pm me n ill send it2 huever wants it
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Chris B
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Posted - 2006/09/09 : 12:39:54
quote:
Originally posted by DjSamination:
Gabber's actually fast than what Scott Brown usually plays isn't it?
the collective name for what Neophyte, Scott Brown and (maybe) Tommyknocker is making is Rotterdam Hardcore, or as the Dutch themself rather prefer, Hard Style.
Nah hardstyles different mate, really bouncy and kinda different style.
And gabber can be a lot of different speeds from about 140-220 then if your countin speedcore anythin up to about 800 bpm.
Never heard dutch folk callin Neophyte etc rotterdam hardcore but you might be right, just nu style or commercial hardcore from what i've heard.
Anyway im not the best with sub genres, not been into the hard stuff long enough to have worked them all out so correct me if im wrong. A lot of these styles overlap in places which is why i find it confusing.
Terror = Dark and evil style with wkd atmospheric synths and techno style distorted kicks. Can be fast or slow depending on tune.
Frenchcore = From what i've heard is quite fast sorta 180-210 and really twisted and cool, one feature is the kick drums tends to be more punchy and less full on distortion than other styles.
Industrial = Basically like terror but even more dark and distorted.
Breakcore = Mental music with breakbeats mashed up fast as f*ck, very random and never no whats about to happen in a track from heavy kicks to breaks to samples from allsorts.
Hardcore techno = What it says the HARDcore end of techno music, absolutely love the stuff
Speedcore = 220bpm + fast as f*ck 4/4 style.
Splittercore = Basically like gettin some really savage and fast speedcore, then stick it on 45  . Is wkd for last 10 mins of a set but i find it boring after that cos its far too fast to dance to and is only so much you can do with messin the beats around at that speed. Just my opinion though loads love it.
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Oh aye and bouncy techno = old scottish/dutch style of bouncy hardcore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouncy_techno this article sums it up well
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Edited by - Chris B on 2006/09/09 12:42:06 |
Smoogie
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Posted - 2006/09/09 : 12:51:52
Don't forget Nu skool (Boucny Hardcore) which is a more mature and evolved sound of Happy Hardcore, it's Bouncy bit maybe a bit more trancy. Not really a sub genre but more of a style which seems to be growing in popularity. Stuff like the Brisk and vaggbond remix of Be happy by Eclipse is more Bouncy than most 'Upfront' Uk Hardcore is yet isn't all piano and techno influenced like Hardcore was ten years ago.
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Chris B
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Posted - 2006/09/09 : 12:57:21
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
Stuff like the Brisk and vaggbond remix of Be happy by Eclipse is more Bouncy than most 'Upfront' Uk Hardcore is yet isn't all piano and techno influenced like Hardcore was ten years ago.
Thats just uk hardcore i hate that tune
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Knightmare
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Posted - 2006/09/09 : 13:19:06
quote:
Originally posted by DjSamination:
Gabber's actually fast than what Scott Brown usually plays isn't it?
the collective name for what Neophyte, Scott Brown and (maybe) Tommyknocker is making is Rotterdam Hardcore, or as the Dutch themself rather prefer, Hard Style.
I don't know whether I should laugh or cry...
this thread is soooo full of sh!t...
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Chris B
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Posted - 2006/09/09 : 13:31:31
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Originally posted by Knightmare:
this thread is soooo full of sh!t...
i reckon a lotta that would be in my post why i wrote
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Anyway im not the best with sub genres, not been into the hard stuff long enough to have worked them all out so correct me if im wrong.
So aye mate if you could correct places i'm confused be appreciated, mosta those descriptions are just from what i've heard on certain mixes
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