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bLOODY_dAN
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 Posted - 2007/02/08 : 05:31:11
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Originally posted by MC SARS:
I've done it all. Everything I could think of to test this whole "God" theory. I used to think people who are religious where morons also (which seems to be the general concensus here). Thats not how i feel now. I dont feel ive lost anything. I havent lost any freedoms. I havent lost any intellectual groundings. Ive lost nothing.
What i have simple found, is that im happier. Not that i wasnt happy before. Im even more happy now. Ive stopped doing certain things simply because i find they make me unhappy in the long run.
If you feel like there should be more to your life....your right. there is. Look for it. Everyone path is different....Its the looking that brings you to your answer. Never give up.
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Underloop
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Posted - 2007/02/08 : 18:46:08
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Originally posted by kathryn:
Why pray to something that isnt there?
Why say something isn't there when you can't say for sure that it isn't?
Ever lost something, searched all over the house only to come to the conclusion it wasn't there? Then the next day you walk downstairs and its there on the worktop where you left it in the first place :-P
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Da Cunney Bugz
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Posted - 2007/02/08 : 18:53:04
meh u cnt use that as an argument, we might aswell put leprechauns, loch ness monster and thomas the tank under Underloop's argument :)
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Underloop
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Posted - 2007/02/08 : 19:40:04
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Originally posted by Da Cunney Bugz:
meh u cnt use that as an argument, we might aswell put leprechauns, loch ness monster and thomas the tank under Underloop's argument :)
Why not? Theres no evidence that they don't exist, and there is evidence (all be it circumstantial) that they may (with the obvious exception of Thomas the Tank Engine who quite clearly is real!!!).
All I'm saying is, where is the proof that God doesn't exist, in whatever form he may be in.
My God exists, I know that for sure. In fact I reckon Kathryn believes in my God too. Probably most of the rest of you do too. I believe that the form the God I believe in takes is that of the emotion Love. Theres so many arguments that agree with this, and if you re-read the bible, Qur'an or a lot of other religious texts in this context (but certainly the bible, as I haven't really read any of the others, just heard extracts) then it puts a whole new spin on things.
And before I get slated, no I'm not saying I am right or anybody else is wrong, this is just my personal outlook on life as a Christian.
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dee_licious
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Posted - 2007/02/08 : 20:44:27
Good point there matthew, never thought of it that way but sounds supercool to me!!!!
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Righteous9
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Posted - 2007/02/08 : 22:27:06
Yes, to me God exists! Not in any specific way, I learned a lot over the years about metaphysics and also, I used to be a Moonie! But the hard thing is to understand Him, The feelings you have, the acts you do reflect your relationship with God! If you pray and nothing happens, You probably got an answer but you didn't understand it! God Loves everyone, not any specific religion, I call Him Heavenly Father, like Christians... The real reason, he's so hard to understand is because he deeply sorrowful for the world.... I've kind of grown up and handle business by myself, but yeah, God is in what you do, how you act, how you live!,
I wouldn't get too hung up on religion just do positive stuff, surround yourself with positive people, Put care into others and yourself...
Like I said it's the way you live! No doctrine to follow!,
Conscientious People is what God Needs!,
A lot of times I can kind of feel what's right and wrong, I feel my conscience is pretty strong...,
I had the feeling a lot of times of struggle being a raver since we're so ill-placed in society, we do drugs, crazy poeple, etc..
But does God deny me the joy, honestly, if had the choice between God and Raving, I would be a raver, but I have the best of both worlds!, I just pray what I'm doing is true to my God!,
Look I'm just a human being, blah, blah, blah, don't get sad... And don't express negativity!, I just try to be nice to people and they're nice to me!, But I am schizophrenic, I don't know If you know me I'm not that tough!
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Righteous9
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Posted - 2007/02/08 : 22:49:21
I was sitting there thinking and I feel Religion is a serious topic, but to describe God, you gotta watch your mouth, I try not to talk badly or hurt people, because God is there even though He is invisible!, I just try to judge situations with my conscience! Just try not to hate and at the same time enlighten yourself... Even I read the Dalai Lama's words!, I'm not a die-hard Bhuddist, I just try to grow with what I learn from books and practice!, there's a lot of good books that are not strictly religious!, Just have fun, Or repent and see how bored you get with religion!, That's why I left Unification Church (Rev. Moon's Church -Now called Universal Peace Federation)!, I'm getting scared!, but being a raver you know your friends give mad love! The Underground gives hope!
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Pope C XXIII
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Posted - 2007/02/09 : 01:45:11
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Originally posted by Underloop:
All I'm saying is, where is the proof that God doesn't exist, in whatever form he may be in.
Logic tells us the burden of proof in on the one who makes the claim. If people's actions were able to be dictated by that kind of logic, we'd be completely unable to function. There is no proof that anything doesn't exist. On a purely intellectual level, that's fine, but when it's able to dictate action, a problem occurs.
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Meathead
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Posted - 2007/02/09 : 13:25:55
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Originally posted by Underloop:
re-read the bible, Qur'an or a lot of other religious texts in this context
ye sure y not? throw in jade goodys n jordans auto-biog n thats gonna b one fun weekend. 
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Jon O-T
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Posted - 2007/02/09 : 15:04:10
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Originally posted by Brian K:
the time of jesus’s birth isn't given an exact date in the bible, but the surroundings described are definitely spring/summer
wasnt he born in the southern hemisphere then?
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