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Meathead
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Posted - 2008/03/22 : 23:34:50
quote: Originally posted by SPOOX:
Got both my kids here. 2 Boys. One aged 9 & the other 7. Just asked them what does easter mean to you 2. Both at the same time said getting loads of chocolate.
and if you ask em about christmas, im betting it'd be presents.
i cant really be arsed tryin to persuade people, who dont want to be persuaded, that religions a load a shite, so i dont do it. and, hey, if people wanna buy me presents and chocolate, they can believe in whatever the hell they want. :)
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SPOOX
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Posted - 2008/03/23 : 00:49:20
quote: Originally posted by Meathead:
[quote]Originally posted by SPOOX:
Got both my kids here. 2 Boys. One aged 9 & the other 7. Just asked them what does easter mean to you 2. Both at the same time said getting loads of chocolate.
and if you ask em about christmas, im betting it'd be presents.
I think your most probably right.
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Lilley
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Posted - 2008/03/23 : 01:07:15
quote: Originally posted by coopshire:
well the whole bible has flaws in it
im christian and im not saying its fake
its all real
just alot of things are made up
your right even christmas is "borrowed" from the pagan tradition
im an expert on relgion so im not going to start...
most 'experts' on religion were not born in '92. sorry for being a little bit skeptical. even if you werent born then, most 'experts' would still be old enough to be your grandfather
"its all real, just a lot of things are made up"
"flaws in it but its not fake"
so when exactly did you become an expert?
kindly forgive me for disregarding your post
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Posted - 2008/03/23 : 01:30:08
religion is an outdated concept.
our world would be alot place with out these believes thrust upon us from birth
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Wilky
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Posted - 2008/03/23 : 12:12:40
lol religion is really funny!
lets go back 2000 years...
out of our gene pool out of say 10million babies born, theres probably 1 that turns out a genius..
this is what i think happened 2000 years ago. the majority of people were stupid and soaked everythin they was told up!
so when the bible was written people had to believe it as thats all they knew!
god doesnt exist in my eyes, people just made it up all those years ago to seperate the brainy from the weak minded.
i could of told people ive spoke to GOD 2000 years ago.. and everyone on the planet would of believed it!
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2008/03/23 : 17:02:44
Im kinda skeptical about religion and the bible specifically because if you think about Chinese whispers then youll know that people always overexaggerate things.... it doesnt even take them a long time. So couple that fact with the fact that the bible is 2000 years old, has been translated from different languages, and re-written a bunch of times... It doesnt seem very likely that the information contained in the bible isnt exactly 100% non-fiction.
In saying that though, i do believe in a higher power of some sort. I mean, there HAS to be. Where did everything originate from? You've all heard of the big bang theory before right? That there were a bunch of chemicals that reacted and exploded, causing the universe. Thats all well and good, but where did those chemicals come from? Big bang theory states that they were 'just there'. ******** they were just there, nothing originates from nothing. Thus, my belief of a higher power.
My guess as to why there would be a higher power that allows suffering...well... If everything is all sunshines and lollypops and rainbows then people arent really going to improve themselves, strive for better things or even appreciate the good times, because there are no bad.
In terms of Easter, nowdays i see kids actually getting presents for Easter. Im not talking chocolate - im talking toys... like another christmas. Its ****ing ridiculous.
While we're slandering holidays - Valentines day is a load of shite too. Hallmark is a brilliant company to come up with that. Got profit? they sure do.
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coopshire
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Posted - 2008/03/23 : 19:28:47
quote: Originally posted by Influx:
Im kinda skeptical about religion and the bible specifically because if you think about Chinese whispers then youll know that people always overexaggerate things.... it doesnt even take them a long time. So couple that fact with the fact that the bible is 2000 years old, has been translated from different languages, and re-written a bunch of times... It doesnt seem very likely that the information contained in the bible isnt exactly 100% non-fiction.
In saying that though, i do believe in a higher power of some sort. I mean, there HAS to be. Where did everything originate from? You've all heard of the big bang theory before right? That there were a bunch of chemicals that reacted and exploded, causing the universe. Thats all well and good, but where did those chemicals come from? Big bang theory states that they were 'just there'. ******** they were just there, nothing originates from nothing. Thus, my belief of a higher power.
My guess as to why there would be a higher power that allows suffering...well... If everything is all sunshines and lollypops and rainbows then people arent really going to improve themselves, strive for better things or even appreciate the good times, because there are no bad.
In terms of Easter, nowdays i see kids actually getting presents for Easter. Im not talking chocolate - im talking toys... like another christmas. Its ****ing ridiculous.
While we're slandering holidays - Valentines day is a load of shite too. Hallmark is a brilliant company to come up with that. Got profit? they sure do.
ok....
Your right the king james version (most used bible version in US) is very different from any bible in eruope. Due to all the editing. But its not the stories about impossible stuff that you have to concern yourself with. Its the ideas. the Information behind the stories. Thats what your trying to learn, not stories about couple hundred people beating millions
Same as me man there is a God. even gods idk. for someone to say there isnt they only fool themselves. there is something in us that gives us something that we can understand religon. there are millions of other kind of animals. why dont they have any kind of religous stuff going on? because when God made us he gave us an understanding of his exsitance you could say. hence we being better than all.
Its all religon and state. the government ... "forces" us into thinking that we have to get these things for your kids. we need to go back to the old days where parents beat there kids. you know sure as hell if my kid does something bad ill spank his @ss.
saw some kid today throw yes THROW eggs at his fathers plate of food and he just kind of nodded it off and said thank you son. I wanted to hit that kid so bad.
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Posted - 2008/03/24 : 05:41:38
good friday = drink + Sat =drink more ! + Easter Sunday = jesus was born in an easter egg ( eat chocolate & drink) + Monday = Drink !
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Posted - 2008/03/24 : 06:34:47
quote: Originally posted by Lea25:
good friday = drink + Sat =drink more ! + Easter Sunday = jesus was born in an easter egg ( eat chocolate & drink) + Monday = Drink ! 
LOL that's the way. :D
Had a bottle of Henessy on Saturday and 1st time trying it to and **** me dead I was off me nickers nearly died. :(
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Posted - 2008/03/24 : 12:28:10
quote: Originally posted by Interfade:
quote: Originally posted by Lea25:
good friday = drink + Sat =drink more ! + Easter Sunday = jesus was born in an easter egg ( eat chocolate & drink) + Monday = Drink ! 
LOL that's the way. :D
Had a bottle of Henessy on Saturday and 1st time trying it to and **** me dead I was off me nickers nearly died. :(
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Posted - 2008/03/24 : 14:41:52
i dont know but all i want is to wake up one day on easter and for someone to have prepared a good old fashioned easter egg treasure hunt. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ****ING ASK FOR????
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Posted - 2008/03/24 : 15:30:46
quote: Originally posted by reenz:
i dont know but all i want is to wake up one day on easter and for someone to have prepared a good old fashioned easter egg treasure hunt. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ****ING ASK FOR????
Maybe your just not looking hard enough Reenz! :-P
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Meph751
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Posted - 2008/03/24 : 15:40:06
easter is about cadbury creme eggs. the jesus nonsense is just a distraction created by those of us who buy all the creme eggs while you're at church.
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Posted - 2008/03/24 : 17:30:04
quote: Originally posted by coopshire:
quote: Originally posted by Influx:
Im kinda skeptical about religion and the bible specifically because if you think about Chinese whispers then youll know that people always overexaggerate things.... it doesnt even take them a long time. So couple that fact with the fact that the bible is 2000 years old, has been translated from different languages, and re-written a bunch of times... It doesnt seem very likely that the information contained in the bible isnt exactly 100% non-fiction.
In saying that though, i do believe in a higher power of some sort. I mean, there HAS to be. Where did everything originate from? You've all heard of the big bang theory before right? That there were a bunch of chemicals that reacted and exploded, causing the universe. Thats all well and good, but where did those chemicals come from? Big bang theory states that they were 'just there'. ******** they were just there, nothing originates from nothing. Thus, my belief of a higher power.
My guess as to why there would be a higher power that allows suffering...well... If everything is all sunshines and lollypops and rainbows then people arent really going to improve themselves, strive for better things or even appreciate the good times, because there are no bad.
In terms of Easter, nowdays i see kids actually getting presents for Easter. Im not talking chocolate - im talking toys... like another christmas. Its ****ing ridiculous.
While we're slandering holidays - Valentines day is a load of shite too. Hallmark is a brilliant company to come up with that. Got profit? they sure do.
ok....
Your right the king james version (most used bible version in US) is very different from any bible in eruope. Due to all the editing. But its not the stories about impossible stuff that you have to concern yourself with. Its the ideas. the Information behind the stories. Thats what your trying to learn, not stories about couple hundred people beating millions
Same as me man there is a God. even gods idk. for someone to say there isnt they only fool themselves. there is something in us that gives us something that we can understand religon. there are millions of other kind of animals. why dont they have any kind of religous stuff going on? because when God made us he gave us an understanding of his exsitance you could say. hence we being better than all.
Its all religon and state. the government ... "forces" us into thinking that we have to get these things for your kids. we need to go back to the old days where parents beat there kids. you know sure as hell if my kid does something bad ill spank his @ss.
saw some kid today throw yes THROW eggs at his fathers plate of food and he just kind of nodded it off and said thank you son. I wanted to hit that kid so bad.
Oh yeah, anyone who doesn't believe in a supernatural being there isn't a single shred of evidence for is clearly delusional. The reason humans invent religion is because, ironically, we're so intelligent. We naturally look for answers and explanations, and when they're out of our reach we just invent them. We used to attribute earthquakes and tornadoes and such to the work of gods before we understood them, but the same thing happens today. At the moment we don't understand the origins of the universe or abiogenesis, so the idiot majority proclaim that 'god' must have done it. Pathetic.
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Posted - 2008/03/24 : 22:01:47
quote: Originally posted by jenks:
At the moment we don't understand the origins of the universe or abiogenesis, so the idiot majority proclaim that 'god' must have done it. Pathetic.
What always makes me chuckle is that whilst there is no hard evidence EITHER way as to who is right or wrong, it is always the atheists who proclaim religious (and I lump all religions in there as they are all essentially the same) as pathetic and idiots. Its good to see that the scientific side of the argument is being stood up for by those with a clearly scientific way of thinking :-)
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