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Ken Masters
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 Posted - 2009/01/14 : 23:15:30
awesome debate this! I'm not putting drugs down, don't get me wrong. Each to their own & I don't let anyone make up my mind but me.
all my raving mates take pop E when going to events & I couldn't care less what they want to do. its up to them but i'll say this. If you get into a routine of taking drugs at raves & that's the norm then I think you'll struggle to enjoy it as much as you could if you didn't need drugs but don't get me wrong. I'm not stereotyping anyone here. You make up your own mind & enjoy life they way you feel suits you best. Be your own man! 
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tru bass
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Posted - 2009/01/14 : 23:41:10
Drink = legal
drugs = illegal
legal = no risk but lower enjoyement (possibly)
illegal = risk but higher enjoyement (possibly)
IMO drink..
get myself a crate of lager and put away the jimmies = better night for me!
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Jackol
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Posted - 2009/01/14 : 23:47:45
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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
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Originally posted by Jackol:
however, i am extremely opposed to the opinion that you're not raving if you dont take drugs. that's just stupid.
Did I miss something? Who said that?
no one in this thread did, but some people i know and occasionally rafe with think that.
these are the people who take two hits of e, a hit of k, and maybe do a few lines.
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jenks
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Posted - 2009/01/15 : 05:53:01
quote:
Originally posted by tru bass:
Drink = legal
drugs = illegal
legal = no risk but lower enjoyement (possibly)
illegal = risk but higher enjoyement (possibly)
IMO drink..
get myself a crate of lager and put away the jimmies = better night for me!
The problem with that is it's pure bollocks, the legality of certain drugs for the most part has nothing to do with how dangerous they are at all. Alcohol is one of the most harmful drugs there are, but it's perfectly legal, on the other hand ecstasy's harmfulness is comparable with some prescription drugs yet it's class A. The classification system is driven by public opinion, not science.
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simdog
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Posted - 2009/01/15 : 07:50:10
found a good video about mdma
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mNVGRBcDB0Q
and an amusing comment
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I've taken about 10-20 x's during my lifetime. While Ive enjoyed the drug, it is mentally addictive. It's also a drug. It alters the way your mind functions for months at a time. And you also have to consider...it releases massive amounts of seratonin throughout your brain. Could it possibly be good for you? No. Its illegal for a reason.
God wants your body to be pure. God wants you to be a good person...and ecstasy doesn't accomplish that goal.
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2009/01/15 : 08:09:54
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Originally posted by simdog:
found a good video about mdma
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mNVGRBcDB0Q
and an amusing comment
NikM755 (6 days ago) Show Hide
I've taken about 10-20 x's during my lifetime. While Ive enjoyed the drug, it is mentally addictive. It's also a drug. It alters the way your mind functions for months at a time. And you also have to consider...it releases massive amounts of seratonin throughout your brain. Could it possibly be good for you? No. Its illegal for a reason.
God wants your body to be pure. God wants you to be a good person...and ecstasy doesn't accomplish that goal.
Pretty sure if someone is going to go down to God route, then they need to take it from both sides.
God also made the sassafras tree, and in turn the oil from the sassafras tree, which is what MDMA is synthesized from. If God didnt want you taking drugs, he wouldnt supply you with the chemicals to make it happen.
Not to mention that marijuana is just a plant... straight up... God created all drugs, really.
Thats what i'd say if i were a religious man. Luckily, im not.
People can take drugs at raves if they want to, its their prerogative. If they want to, they're not doing anything wrong, its their body and their choice.
It's irrelevent of why they do it. They do it, accept it.
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tru bass
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Posted - 2009/01/15 : 08:23:03
quote:
Originally posted by jenks:
quote:
Originally posted by tru bass:
Drink = legal
drugs = illegal
legal = no risk but lower enjoyement (possibly)
illegal = risk but higher enjoyement (possibly)
IMO drink..
get myself a crate of lager and put away the jimmies = better night for me!
The problem with that is it's pure bollocks, the legality of certain drugs for the most part has nothing to do with how dangerous they are at all. Alcohol is one of the most harmful drugs there are, but it's perfectly legal, on the other hand ecstasy's harmfulness is comparable with some prescription drugs yet it's class A. The classification system is driven by public opinion, not science.
risk of possession of drugs is quite larger with pills than it is with alcohol :P
not physical risk
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simdog
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Posted - 2009/01/15 : 09:12:19
risk and consequences of doing something stupid when you're pissed is a hell of allot higher then the risk and consequences of being caught with a couple of pills.
oh and by the way. i didn't write the god comment. that was part of the youtube comment.
a bit of the old "hmmm, this is allot more fun then church. but god is supposed to be the best so this must be the devil. let's ban it."
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Posted - 2009/01/15 : 09:33:53
and totally unrelated (Kinda),
Smoogie - where did you get that thunderdome tune and what's it called? Tuuune!!
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Posted - 2009/01/15 : 09:50:26
quote:
Originally posted by tru bass:
Drink = legal
drugs = illegal
legal = no risk but lower enjoyement (possibly)
illegal = risk but higher enjoyement (possibly)
IMO drink..
get myself a crate of lager and put away the jimmies = better night for me!
thats bollox.... drugs in holland are legal.. means the drugs here cause less enjoyment? O.o ... nonsence really the legalisation of drugs lowers crime due to that it became legal in holland.. rest of the world should follow imo.. has nuffin to do wif enjoying or not
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Posted - 2009/01/15 : 10:02:17
there would be allot less problems with overdose and impuraties in the drugs aswell because the government could regulate production. the gov. would also make a **** load of coin by taxing recreational drugs
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/01/15 : 13:54:28
im all for legalising drugs even though i dont do them or condone them.
just because i dont do them or like them doesnt mean im going to stop someone else screwing themselves up.
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Watson.
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Posted - 2009/01/15 : 17:58:21
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
im all for legalising drugs even though i dont do them or condone them.
just because i dont do them or like them doesnt mean im going to stop someone else screwing themselves up.
If we're going to go down that road, I think we'd have to be careful about what drugs we did legalise. I've never taken drugs, so anyone can feel free to correct me, but I'm sure that Ecstasy is not addictive? am I right? However, you get people who become addicted to Heroin on their first hit, which would create a lot of problems. I think we'd see a significant rise in crimes involving thefts if we were to legalise heroin.
I don't have too many issues with non-addictive substances being legalised. It's the addicts that ruin it for those who take it recreationally.
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Posted - 2009/01/15 : 18:33:41
just my opinion but i dont think more people would get addicted if we legalised all drugs, so i dont think theft crimes would go up.
besides, the money we would save insted of wasting money on arresting drop-outs...and all that money that we would gain from tax...
"couuld it possibly be good for you? No. Its illegal for a reason"
a stupid arguement, when there are plenty of things that are legal, that are just as lethal if used or used incorrectly.
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tru bass
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Posted - 2009/01/15 : 18:49:24
quote:
Originally posted by dj bugbear:
quote:
Originally posted by tru bass:
Drink = legal
drugs = illegal
legal = no risk but lower enjoyement (possibly)
illegal = risk but higher enjoyement (possibly)
IMO drink..
get myself a crate of lager and put away the jimmies = better night for me!
thats bollox.... drugs in holland are legal.. means the drugs here cause less enjoyment? O.o ... nonsence really the legalisation of drugs lowers crime due to that it became legal in holland.. rest of the world should follow imo.. has nuffin to do wif enjoying or not
1. If youd have checked, i live in the UK
2. im not saying they are better cos they are illegal. im saying the general enjoyement of a night is probably higher on drugs..
3. yes drugs should be legal
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