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Samination
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 Posted - 2009/06/28 : 13:42:39
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Originally posted by Quicksilver:
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Originally posted by Fishy:
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Originally posted by Lilley:
ok, why did you download it then, if you had no idea what it was? thats just downloading for the sake of downloading. Pretty stupid if you ask me...
maybe for the sake of exploring music?? 
Exactly.
I love music, there's not many musical genres I don't like, and doing this has helped me discover tons of music I probably wouldn't have discovered earlier. If I love what I hear, I'll buy. I admit I don't buy many Hardcore compilations (but 80% of the tracks I use in my mixes are bought, if available digitally - otherwise I'll download a vinyl rip and the label has only itself to blame there for not doing something so simple as putting it out as a 320kbs mp3 for £1,49 on online stores) because I don't know any store in Sweden that sells Hardcore (maybe in Stockholm, but that's 4 hours away and I am not going to buy a train ticket for double the money of the compilation cost :P) and if I were to import every already expensive album I'd be broke pretty fast.
Quicksilver, A store in GBG (was a long tiem ago, so i dont remember its name, dont even know if they exist) sold/imported most Happy2bHardcore. I actually bough H2bH c3 to 6, and Bonkers 9 and 10 from there. If you want to have a chance of buying hardcore in Sweden, you'd propably have to buy Clubland or MoS albums
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Posted - 2009/06/28 : 15:21:54
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maybe for the sake of exploring music??
meh, im pretty picky when it comes to music. Im certainly not going to waste bandwidth downloading something that has potential to be trash.
Oh, I completely understand, perhaps not condone, but definitely understand, downloading the guitar hero version of metallica's death magnetic, providing the cd has been purchased first. That effort was ****ing appalling.
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/06/28 : 16:40:17
If it where on CD, I'd ripped it instead of downloading, if you're "saving" bandwisth anyways.
If you're saying that GH version of the songs isnt the same, is it really the same as downloading the same version you have on a CD?
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 03:02:36
this topic is still going on??? ... I thought we had agreed that filesharing was good 
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Lilley
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Posted - 2009/06/29 : 09:37:29
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Originally posted by Samination:
If it where on CD, I'd ripped it instead of downloading, if you're "saving" bandwisth anyways.
If you're saying that GH version of the songs isnt the same, is it really the same as downloading the same version you have on a CD?
I was saying the cd quality was crap. GH much better, even though the songs were slightly different.
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/06/30 : 08:46:07
I haven't seen this been replied to yet, but As I've only seen 2 producers (except Naturatech) that's expressed their dislike for filesharing, I'd love to hear your answer to my questions.
Is there a reason (related to loosing money...) why you would be pissed off at someone filesharing a track that you made 10 years ago on vinyl, which cant be bought on CD or digitally today, and is not being sold commercially today (2nd hand obviously don't count)?
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Posted - 2009/07/01 : 02:08:42
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which cant be bought on CD or digitally today, and is not being sold commercially today (2nd hand obviously don't count)?
point in question - Hardcore Underground 2
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/07/01 : 04:07:45
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Originally posted by Lilley:
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Originally posted by Samination:
which cant be bought on CD or digitally today, and is not being sold commercially today (2nd hand obviously don't count)?
point in question - Hardcore Underground 2
unmixed, I dont consider mixed albums have anything in value to me
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Posted - 2009/07/01 : 06:04:08
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Originally posted by Samination:
I haven't seen this been replied to yet, but As I've only seen 2 producers (except Naturatech) that's expressed their dislike for filesharing, I'd love to hear your answer to my questions.
This thread doesn't represent all the artists :) I would say all artists and labels are against it unless they say otherwise.
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/07/01 : 14:03:44
well when it comes to the whole music scene, it's obvious labels are against it. But it's not the deal with artists. Have you seen a statement by ALL/most artists that say their against it?
Heck, against the The Pirate Bay in the "spectrial", there's atleast 2 artsits that got represented that wasn't asked to act as victims. One artist/group ended up releasing their latest album on the site.
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silver
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Posted - 2009/07/01 : 14:15:19
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Originally posted by Samination:
well when it comes to the whole music scene, it's obvious labels are against it. But it's not the deal with artists. Have you seen a statement by ALL/most artists that say their against it?
Simple as artists don't want to piss off fans, the RIAA represents artists, you don't have to join but why does 90% of the artists join it? Let the RIAA take the heat.
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Posted - 2009/07/01 : 17:15:37
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Originally posted by silver:
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Originally posted by Samination:
well when it comes to the whole music scene, it's obvious labels are against it. But it's not the deal with artists. Have you seen a statement by ALL/most artists that say their against it?
Simple as artists don't want to piss off fans, the RIAA represents artists, you don't have to join but why does 90% of the artists join it? Let the RIAA take the heat.
EXACTLY.
Artists don't want to publicly talk about these things in fear of losing fans, though a lot of artists have made songs about this kind of thing or put lyrics in it about it.
Artists do hate this. Want to know why? Because they're losing money. People, artists, who are actually trying to enjoy the music, but make a living, are NOT because of file sharing. It isn't just effecting labels...the labels pay the artist.
Figure it out.
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Posted - 2009/07/02 : 04:28:10
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Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
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Originally posted by silver:
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Originally posted by Samination:
well when it comes to the whole music scene, it's obvious labels are against it. But it's not the deal with artists. Have you seen a statement by ALL/most artists that say their against it?
Simple as artists don't want to piss off fans, the RIAA represents artists, you don't have to join but why does 90% of the artists join it? Let the RIAA take the heat.
EXACTLY.
Artists don't want to publicly talk about these things in fear of losing fans, though a lot of artists have made songs about this kind of thing or put lyrics in it about it.
Artists do hate this. Want to know why? Because they're losing money. People, artists, who are actually trying to enjoy the music, but make a living, are NOT because of file sharing. It isn't just effecting labels...the labels pay the artist.
Figure it out.
Artists are loosing money in any cases, because they sign shity contracts
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Posted - 2009/07/02 : 05:06:56
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Originally posted by silver:
Simple as artists don't want to piss off fans, the RIAA represents artists, you don't have to join but why does 90% of the artists join it? Let the RIAA take the heat.
I seriously doubt that figure. It's probably more like 9% of artists in the USA, or less. The rest make music because they love making music or because they simply don't want to be affiliated with such a terrible organization.
The RIAA only helps with the major labels. The major labels only release music that they know will sell. Music is a business, music is not art, and the RIAA represents this horrid change.
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2009/07/02 : 05:23:35
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Originally posted by Nav:
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Originally posted by silver:
Simple as artists don't want to piss off fans, the RIAA represents artists, you don't have to join but why does 90% of the artists join it? Let the RIAA take the heat.
The major labels only release music that they know will sell. Music is a business, music is not art,
That's the dumbest thing i've ever heard.
The industry is a business, the music is an expression through art.
That's like saying professional artists (paint or drawing) aren't artists because they sell their work. I think you're a little confused.
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