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snerkler
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 Posted - 2009/08/13 : 18:03:19
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
Recent events have stirred up allot of discomfort in the scene about the future of Hardcore...
Such instances as React going bust, Impacts' departure, Stormtroopers' public fracus with Supreme and UFO, CLSM recently stepping back, and Scott Browns' corner going cold, are reasons for people suspecting hardcore is 'dying'.
The question I'm confused about is whether we are all over reacting? it this just the natural progression of hardcore?
People have said for a while now, that hardcore hasnt changed, and does that mean producers are getting bored with the scene and the music?
Are producers just getting to the point in their life where they dont want to make music anymore? in reality, you cant make music forever... some have families and to be at raves every weekend and across the country isn't suitable for some..
Is commercialism making hardcore a win or lose game? go commercial and you survive, and if you don't go the expensive route?
Whats your opinion. Is hardcore actually dying or are new artists joining and older ones duely leaving? After all, nothing stays the same forever... allot of people are very conservative and dont like change...
Maybe a bit late to put my two penneth worth in, but here I go.
It's not the first time, nor will it be the last that people are worried that the hardcore scene is dying. In the past it has just evolved and come back as strong as it was. I don't know if it's coincidence, but most likely not, but the scene always seems to be in trouble when folk get greedy and try to make it commercial. It happened way back in the early 90's, when we had tracks llike "trip to trumpton", and "Sesame's Treat" in the charts. It soon died out of the charts, and the underground scene went a bit quiet, then all of a sudden it transformed and Happy Hardcore and Jungle hit the scene, bang the underground Rave scene was thriving again.
To me the mid 90's was just an awesome time to be out raving. The vibe was so happy and positive, and more and more quality tracks came along. New artisits would come along and push the scene in different directions and all was great.
Force and Styles then tried to go commercial, charting tracks like Heart of Gold and Paradise and Dreams, I think they even 'sold out' on Pretty Green eyes when Flip and Fill released it. Again the scene kind of died away a little, with it just ticking over. Then all of a sudden, a new sound came out with the likes of Jelly Baby/Raver baby and the whole scene kicked off again. I must admit I have been out of the scene to a large degree for a while now, but it would seem as though certain individuals are trying to commercialise things again, and guess what it seems to be upsetting the scene again. Are we starting to see a pattern yet?
I think IF people are trying to go commercial for the RIGHT reasons then I have no problem with that, I have faith that Hardcore will regenerate over and over. I'd personally like it to go back to the orignal hardcore from the early 90's, but that is probably just a pipe dream. It's the guys who sell out that bug me, in it to make a fast buck, not really caring about the music or the scene. To me, music is life (plus my wife of course ;-)), as it is for so many others, and I wish people who screwed around with it would step back and realise this.
Step down from the soap box, and breathe ;-)
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Future_Shock
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 Posted - 2009/08/14 : 00:22:42
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Originally posted by snerkler:
quote:
Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
Recent events have stirred up allot of discomfort in the scene about the future of Hardcore...
Such instances as React going bust, Impacts' departure, Stormtroopers' public fracus with Supreme and UFO, CLSM recently stepping back, and Scott Browns' corner going cold, are reasons for people suspecting hardcore is 'dying'.
The question I'm confused about is whether we are all over reacting? it this just the natural progression of hardcore?
People have said for a while now, that hardcore hasnt changed, and does that mean producers are getting bored with the scene and the music?
Are producers just getting to the point in their life where they dont want to make music anymore? in reality, you cant make music forever... some have families and to be at raves every weekend and across the country isn't suitable for some..
Is commercialism making hardcore a win or lose game? go commercial and you survive, and if you don't go the expensive route?
Whats your opinion. Is hardcore actually dying or are new artists joining and older ones duely leaving? After all, nothing stays the same forever... allot of people are very conservative and dont like change...
Maybe a bit late to put my two penneth worth in, but here I go.
It's not the first time, nor will it be the last that people are worried that the hardcore scene is dying. In the past it has just evolved and come back as strong as it was. I don't know if it's coincidence, but most likely not, but the scene always seems to be in trouble when folk get greedy and try to make it commercial. It happened way back in the early 90's, when we had tracks llike "trip to trumpton", and "Sesame's Treat" in the charts. It soon died out of the charts, and the underground scene went a bit quiet, then all of a sudden it transformed and Happy Hardcore and Jungle hit the scene, bang the underground Rave scene was thriving again. To me the mid 90's was just an awesome time to be out raving. The vibe was so happy and positive, and more and more quality tracks came along. New artisits would come along and push the scene in different directions and all was great. Force and Styles then tried to go commercial, charting tracks like Heart of Gold and Paradise and Dreams, I think they even 'sold out' on Pretty Green eyes when Flip and Fill released it. Again the scene kind of died away a little, with it just ticking over. Then all of a sudden, a new sound came out with the likes of Jelly Baby/Raver baby and the whole scene kicked off again. I must admit I have been out of the scene to a large degree for a while now, but it would seem as though certain individuals are trying to commercialise things again, and guess what it seems to be upsetting the scene again. Are we starting to see a pattern yet?
I think IF people are trying to go commercial for the RIGHT reasons then I have no problem with that, I have faith that Hardcore will regenerate over and over. I'd personally like it to go back to the orignal hardcore from the early 90's, but that is probably just a pipe dream. It's the guys who sell out that bug me, in it to make a fast buck, not really caring about the music or the scene. To me, music is life (plus my wife of course ;-)), as it is for so many others, and I wish people who screwed around with it would step back and realise this.
Step down from the soap box, and breathe ;-)
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paragraphs dude
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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2009/08/14 : 00:31:55
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paragraphs dude
dont worry he's from Britain like me, we dont know how the paragraph thingies work.
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snerkler
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Posted - 2009/08/14 : 08:39:14
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
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Originally posted by snerkler:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
Recent events have stirred up allot of discomfort in the scene about the future of Hardcore...
Such instances as React going bust, Impacts' departure, Stormtroopers' public fracus with Supreme and UFO, CLSM recently stepping back, and Scott Browns' corner going cold, are reasons for people suspecting hardcore is 'dying'.
The question I'm confused about is whether we are all over reacting? it this just the natural progression of hardcore?
People have said for a while now, that hardcore hasnt changed, and does that mean producers are getting bored with the scene and the music?
Are producers just getting to the point in their life where they dont want to make music anymore? in reality, you cant make music forever... some have families and to be at raves every weekend and across the country isn't suitable for some..
Is commercialism making hardcore a win or lose game? go commercial and you survive, and if you don't go the expensive route?
Whats your opinion. Is hardcore actually dying or are new artists joining and older ones duely leaving? After all, nothing stays the same forever... allot of people are very conservative and dont like change...
Maybe a bit late to put my two penneth worth in, but here I go.
It's not the first time, nor will it be the last that people are worried that the hardcore scene is dying. In the past it has just evolved and come back as strong as it was. I don't know if it's coincidence, but most likely not, but the scene always seems to be in trouble when folk get greedy and try to make it commercial. It happened way back in the early 90's, when we had tracks llike "trip to trumpton", and "Sesame's Treat" in the charts. It soon died out of the charts, and the underground scene went a bit quiet, then all of a sudden it transformed and Happy Hardcore and Jungle hit the scene, bang the underground Rave scene was thriving again. To me the mid 90's was just an awesome time to be out raving. The vibe was so happy and positive, and more and more quality tracks came along. New artisits would come along and push the scene in different directions and all was great. Force and Styles then tried to go commercial, charting tracks like Heart of Gold and Paradise and Dreams, I think they even 'sold out' on Pretty Green eyes when Flip and Fill released it. Again the scene kind of died away a little, with it just ticking over. Then all of a sudden, a new sound came out with the likes of Jelly Baby/Raver baby and the whole scene kicked off again. I must admit I have been out of the scene to a large degree for a while now, but it would seem as though certain individuals are trying to commercialise things again, and guess what it seems to be upsetting the scene again. Are we starting to see a pattern yet?
I think IF people are trying to go commercial for the RIGHT reasons then I have no problem with that, I have faith that Hardcore will regenerate over and over. I'd personally like it to go back to the orignal hardcore from the early 90's, but that is probably just a pipe dream. It's the guys who sell out that bug me, in it to make a fast buck, not really caring about the music or the scene. To me, music is life (plus my wife of course ;-)), as it is for so many others, and I wish people who screwed around with it would step back and realise this.
Step down from the soap box, and breathe ;-)
TL;DR
paragraphs dude
Yeah, sorry about that, was done on the iphone and isn't the easiest to see what you're doing ;-) I'll edit it just for you ;-)
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