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Ken Masters
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 Posted - 2010/09/10 : 19:42:14
Not sure if anyone else has seen this. I've got Scott on my facebook & just seen it posted a few mins ago.
To be brief I think it's a bit of a joke considering how much this man has done for the scene & how something as small as this could loose him his place at the biggest Hardcore event on the calander. IMO events like these showcase the cream of the scene & not to have Scott there is a disgrace.
As you'll see in the statements from both parties theres a few factors which contributed to this decision. Knowing you lot you'll all have your in depth opinions so here's the statement he posted on FB & let's hear what you think...
Scott Browns Official FB Statement:
"Hi guys
This is to avoid speculation and hopefully avoid questions before they're asked.
At HTID in the sun 2010, apparently my 'conduct wasn't the best' and as a result my name was 'overlooked' for next years booking. I'll explain my side, then I will print the OFFICIAL word from HTID so you can make your own minds up.
On arrival in Spain, me and my friend Tony met up with a few others including Jay Prescott, Slipmatt and his girlfriend Rachel. I am in no way trying to implicate them here. We decided to go out and have a few drinks and a meal. On the way to the restaurant we went to a souvenir shop where I bought a decorative knife. Not the best idea, but I was drunk. The knife was ALWAYS out of sight, holstered and at no point was I threatening or have it on show (shit I was in Spain, you get jailed for things like that)!
After our meal, we went to the club to obtain the passes which were applied. The end of the material was too long on the armband and no one could find scissors. I pulled out the knife and cut it off. It was actually a funny moment and everyone present found it funny. The knife went back in the holster. I DID NOT take the knife into the club at any point, only to the entrance area to collect my armband. If the knife had been a problem or my behaviour unruly, this was the first chance the promoters could have said something. We left, no harm done, back to the hotel. The knife was packed in my case at this point.
That night I played my set, packed the room and had a great night. No bad attitudes, great atmosphere all round.
The following day, HTID asked if I could play a free boat party. I had previously said yes, but due to my over-drinking the night before I avoided it as I knew I was going to be sick. Apparently the boat was rough, so I'm kinda glad I didn't do it. I also had terrible jet-lag having just got in from LA, and spent most of the day asleep.
That night I played the last set in the main arena at Collosus. Again, the atmosphere was great, no bad attitudes. By the time I got to bed it was late.
I was booked to play a boat party the following day at 2.30pm (I think) but I didn't know where to go, I'd been given no instructions or welcome pack. Anyway, I had underslept, and didn't feel too great. In hindsight, the space of time between gigs wasn't enough and I shouldn't have taken the gig on. I saw my friend 'The Doctor' that morning and asked if he'd cover me. He replied yes. I then saw Hixxy in the hotel reception and asked if The Doctor could cover me to which he agreed. At no point did I leave the organisers short of a dj. I made my apologies and went back to bed (more jet lag). I do apologise to anyone who paid to see me that day - Anyone wishing a refund, please send your ticket and proof of purchase to me at:
Evolution Records
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England
That afternoon, I got up and went to the hotel pool. Maybe 10-15 of us were there, Dj's and fans alike. We were having fun at the pool, as you do. We were talking to other residents who were curious who we were. I remember sitting trying to talk Russian to another guest at one point! It didn't get past 'Hello', 'How are you', or 'I am Scottish'. We were playing Table tennis with some kids. Note I use WE a lot, I'm not implicating anyone else here. At NO POINT did the hotel staff tell us to be quiet and at NO POINT were we threatening to the other guests. At one point FOUR members of the HTID staff came to the pool area, passed everyone and singled me out for being rowdy, upsetting and spoiling other guests holidays. I actually thought they were having a joke, so I got out the pool and asked if they were being serious! Once they left, I asked the hotel reception and hotel guard if there had been complaints. Not one.
This was pretty much the end of my trip. That night I went to bed early, Steve collected me first thing and I returned to the airport. Other than the HTID staff complaining at the pool did ANYONE complain. Hotel staff were friendly, even the Guard at the lifts had a smile for me, not once did we have trouble in the room or asked to 'keep it down'. I know many guests who got into trouble for having dozens of people in the room, playing loud music and causing trouble in general.
That pretty much sums it up. I'll now print the official statement. What Steve refers to as 'the truth' is the fact that he'd previously mentioned that my name was 'overlooked' when booking dj's. In no way have I fallen out with HTID and look forward to working again with them in future.
Thanks for reading
Scott"
Official Statement from Steve Littlewood, HTID:
"I'm not sure which part of my email you're going to quote as being "the truth" so am a bit puzzled. You may, however, use this quote below to answer any complaints you get.
The reason you have been left off is for failure to perform on the yacht party when people had purchased tickets to see you. This annoyed the staff, most noticeably Mark as we had to then find people to cover you as well as explain to people your non-apperance. Your conduct in Spain also wasn't the best 1) We were called to the hotel as you were making too much noise at the pool and upsetting other guests and 2) On one night you saw fit to bring a large knife to Colossos while drunk which isn't a good move."
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Posted - 2010/09/10 : 19:54:30
Bloody hell you've changd your name again lol.
I don't really know what to make of this, i supose unless any of us saw it all we don't have a clue. Although the fact he didnt play where he was booked would of pissed me off, but at least he's offering a refund which is good of him which almost no other dj's would do...
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Posted - 2010/09/10 : 20:08:38
can't sit still me! haha this is the name i'm going to push myself with on the production side of things.
Your right about offering a refund. It's a great gesture. I'm not saying Scott Brown is such a big name he can just ignore bookings & think he'll get away with it but let's be serious, this guy has built up an immense rep & if he was as bad as their making out he wouldn't be where he is today.
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 Posted - 2010/09/10 : 22:16:38
I saw it and to be fair ur livin in the past. Scott brown dusnt have a rep these days mainly due to the fact hes done **** all production wise. This story has a lot more too it & smells of HTID throwin their weight about, coz they can... Unfortunate 4 scott brown, HTID run hardcore now and this is probably the final demise of scott brown
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Posted - 2010/09/10 : 22:30:32
My first reaction is that this is slightly pathetic from Scott Brown, airing this shit to the public, if people have an issue with him not being there then they can take it up with HTID. Just sounds to me like he's trying to drum up a bit of support from himself so that HTID will be pressured into booking him in future. Classy :S
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Posted - 2010/09/10 : 22:41:29
conspiracy theories! Gotta love them.
The way thit looks, HTID isn't Hixxy's baby anymore. Would Hixxy really **** with SB this way?
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Posted - 2010/09/10 : 22:43:58
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Originally posted by jenks:
My first reaction is that this is slightly pathetic from Scott Brown, airing this shit to the public, if people have an issue with him not being there then they can take it up with HTID. Just sounds to me like he's trying to drum up a bit of support from himself so that HTID will be pressured into booking him in future. Classy :S
Not at all. The reason he posted this statement was due to the fact that he knew he would be plagued with questions on the whole subject. He obviously felt this was the best way to let people know about the whole situation before people speculated. As you'll see on the last line of his statement...
"In no way have I fallen out with HTID and look forward to working again with them in future."
Proving that he's seen it all before & posting the facts of an unfortunate situation like this before specualtion takes over is the best way to stop prejudice against either party involved.
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Posted - 2010/09/10 : 22:46:27
And thats why they call this genre HAAAARDCORE!
Cant get away with making a bit of ****ing noise. htid, yeah for real.
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Posted - 2010/09/10 : 22:52:05
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And thats why they call this genre HAAAARDCORE!
Cant get away with making a bit of ****ing noise. htid, yeah for real.
Why do I have an image of a Head Teacher & Scott Brown's parents called up to his school with a young Scott sitting on the seat outside eavesdropping?
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Posted - 2010/09/10 : 22:53:33
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Originally posted by Fire Shadow:
quote:
Originally posted by jenks:
My first reaction is that this is slightly pathetic from Scott Brown, airing this shit to the public, if people have an issue with him not being there then they can take it up with HTID. Just sounds to me like he's trying to drum up a bit of support from himself so that HTID will be pressured into booking him in future. Classy :S
Not at all. The reason he posted this statement was due to the fact that he knew he would be plagued with questions on the whole subject. He obviously felt this was the best way to let people know about the whole situation before people speculated. As you'll see on the last line of his statement...
"In no way have I fallen out with HTID and look forward to working again with them in future."
Proving that he's seen it all before & posting the facts of an unfortunate situation like this before specualtion takes over is the best way to stop prejudice against either party involved.
@ Wilky -
Why quote jenks then put @wilky?
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Posted - 2010/09/10 : 22:57:55
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Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by Fire Shadow:
quote:
Originally posted by jenks:
My first reaction is that this is slightly pathetic from Scott Brown, airing this shit to the public, if people have an issue with him not being there then they can take it up with HTID. Just sounds to me like he's trying to drum up a bit of support from himself so that HTID will be pressured into booking him in future. Classy :S
Not at all. The reason he posted this statement was due to the fact that he knew he would be plagued with questions on the whole subject. He obviously felt this was the best way to let people know about the whole situation before people speculated. As you'll see on the last line of his statement...
"In no way have I fallen out with HTID and look forward to working again with them in future."
Proving that he's seen it all before & posting the facts of an unfortunate situation like this before specualtion takes over is the best way to stop prejudice against either party involved.
@ Wilky -
Why quote jenks then put @wilky?
sorry Wilky, I tried to think of a decent response to your post after Jenks but I didn't think it was worth arguing over. I think if you have a look at the Evolution site you'll see exactly what he's been up to over the past year mate.
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Posted - 2010/09/10 : 23:07:20
Not bin on evo site in years mate
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Posted - 2010/09/10 : 23:12:55
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Not bin on evo site in years mate
hmm, doesn't even seem to be on the Evolution website mate but if you check this out i'm sure you'll see why he's been so quiet over the past year. This must have been a mammoth project. Come to think of it, the time he threw into this project & the fact most people (myself included) seem to think he has disappeared could be a major factor as to why HTID have tried to demote him?
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Posted - 2010/09/10 : 23:49:21
to be honest Scott should've been more responsible about his drinking and making sure he is ready for his sets. He knew that he had a set going and he bailed b/c he had a little too much fun. It's ok for him to have a good time and drink, but he still has been paid to do a set and it is his job to make sure he fulfills what he has promised to HTID, or any other promoter. I know this isn't like working in an office for a major corporation, but everyone should be able to be aware of their job responsibilities
Now having said all that, on the second half it sounds like HTID really became petty about the situation and decided to use the "complaint" incident and the knife "situation" against him on top of his 2 no-shows. Hopefully both parties can come to some understanding and be able to work together again.
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Posted - 2010/09/10 : 23:51:06
I think that's a bit of a piss take. Can't you enjoy yourselves at raves these days? Don't sound like Scott did much wrong apart from enjoying himself. OK his missed that boat party but is offering a refund so where's the problem.
What happens to all the Scott Brown fans that would have looked forward to seeing him there in 2011?
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Posted - 2010/09/10 : 23:59:06
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
to be honest Scott should've been more responsible about his drinking and making sure he is ready for his sets. He knew that he had a set going and he bailed b/c he had a little too much fun. It's ok for him to have a good time and drink, but he still has been paid to do a set and it is his job to make sure he fulfills what he has promised to HTID, or any other promoter. I know this isn't like working in an office for a major corporation, but everyone should be able to be aware of their job responsibilities
Now having said all that, on the second half it sounds like HTID really became petty about the situation and decided to use the "complaint" incident and the knife "situation" against him on top of his 2 no-shows. Hopefully both parties can come to some understanding and be able to work together again.
Fair point bud. If he comes all the way from LA, like he said, & decides to start a boozing session, being aware of his booking that night & then on a damn boat the next day!, he should act in a more professional manner. You can't blame jetlag on missing a booking the following day if your in the mood to get slaughtered the night before.
I'm not taking sides here, i'm just very interested in hearing other opinions on the situation....
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