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Vladel
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 Posted - 2016/10/17 : 06:12:14
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
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Originally posted by scottyd2k9:
I prefer older freeform which had more feeling to it. It sounds too much like trance now and not like hardcore.
This .. Went back and listen to SHARKEY and Kevin Energy's disc from Bonkers 17 the other day and the sound on that CD is miles away from what's being pushed nowadays. I know some people love the super weird, "rolling", really trancey freeform, but the stuff coming out ten years ago sounded like it's own unique genre of music, not super sped up trance. That Qygen disc is cool but that album is rightfully being marketed as fast psytrance. I know that's an extreme example but I was playing a mix the other day and some freeform came on from (I believe) the Stamina crew, and they literally turned to me and said whoa, I've never heard trance this fast before
You have literally hit the nail right on the head there.
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Impulse_Response
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Posted - 2016/10/17 : 06:25:18
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
...super weird, "rolling", really trancey freeform...
Just so I know what you're talking about, could you give me some examples of super weird, "rolling," really trancey freeform?
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Samination
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Posted - 2016/10/17 : 07:10:50
I believe 90% of stamina is like that :P
Anyways, even tho the trancecore days in late 90 was trancy as **** aswell, it was still miles better than the drops Douglas especially fancied (the non-existing ones that is)... but just like UK Hardcore, I will probably like the stuff out now in 5 years time...
Edit: I can see that the tracks work live on stage. When I was at I Love Hard Beats last week I didn't mind the drops at all. They kidna worked as they could give you a breather (or for people who liked to dance to go mental without missing out on the melodies) :P
But listening to them as single tracks or on a mix? Boring as fawk.
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Mickey Init
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Posted - 2016/11/17 : 14:01:14
Bump.
Someone said, earlier in this thread, that it was a Finnbarr tune that cleared the dancefloor at Summer Gathering but which one was it?
Was just checking out the TID November charts and there's one from Brisk and one from Finnbarr and that reminded me. Those charts aren't bad this month.
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Elipton
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Posted - 2016/11/17 : 17:55:36
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Originally posted by Samination:
I believe 90% of stamina is like that :P
Anyways, even tho the trancecore days in late 90 was trancy as **** aswell, it was still miles better than the drops Douglas especially fancied (the non-existing ones that is)... but just like UK Hardcore, I will probably like the stuff out now in 5 years time...
Edit: I can see that the tracks work live on stage. When I was at I Love Hard Beats last week I didn't mind the drops at all. They kidna worked as they could give you a breather (or for people who liked to dance to go mental without missing out on the melodies) :P
But listening to them as single tracks or on a mix? Boring as fawk.
This is actually quite a good post. You've touched upon the difference between headphone and dancefloor music. Given that Hardcore music isn't really a consumer-sought item, it's pretty much solely produced for impact on the dancefloor. As result, it feels like the tempo of Freeform has slowed down to contain a longer breakdown and single drop.
By tempo, I don't mean BPM, I mean the structure. If you listen to Bonkers 17 or Bang Like a Mother, there's very little time for respite. It's hard-hitting and driving, and personally, the way I like it. For me listening to music, I don't want to reflect or recollect. I want to be in euphoria, undisturbed, for a good hour.
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A.B
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Posted - 2016/11/17 : 19:57:31
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Originally posted by Elipton:
If you listen to Bonkers 17 or Bang Like a Mother, there's very little time for respite.
There is all kinds of stuff on the label, including ravey stuff like Bang Like A Mother (tune!):
https://soundcloud.com/staminarecords/tamerax-ft-alanna-sterling-explode-fc-3005
https://soundcloud.com/staminarecords/ab-throyo-hands-fc-220216
https://soundcloud.com/staminarecords/tamerax-roomshaker-out-now-httpbitlyfreeformfamily
Saying Stamina is 90% trance because there's a few ultra-deep Douglas bits in the catalogue? Almost like calling a big kick drop 'too much electro'.
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Elipton
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Posted - 2016/11/17 : 21:05:02
3 great tunes. Tamerax might be the new AMS. I hadn't heard his stuff before.
Since you're here, I've had a burning question for about 2 years now:
Will there ever be a melodic VIP Remix of your track with K-Wire, Smiler?
Please, please, please. Please.
Please.
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A.B
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Posted - 2016/11/17 : 21:47:24
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Originally posted by Elipton:
Since you're here, I've had a burning question for about 2 years now:
Will there ever be a melodic VIP Remix of your track with K-Wire, Smiler?
Please, please, please. Please.
Please.
I didn't forget about that! I asked jD-KiD at the time you mentioned it, but he was busy with other projects when I asked. Maybe I'll ask him again ;D
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Elipton
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Posted - 2016/11/17 : 21:55:26
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Originally posted by A.B:
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Originally posted by Elipton:
Since you're here, I've had a burning question for about 2 years now:
Will there ever be a melodic VIP Remix of your track with K-Wire, Smiler?
Please, please, please. Please.
Please.
I didn't forget about that! I asked jD-KiD at the time you mentioned it, but he was busy with other projects when I asked. Maybe I'll ask him again ;D
This excites me!
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Thumpa
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Posted - 2016/11/17 : 22:18:42
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Originally posted by Mickey Init:
Bump.
Someone said, earlier in this thread, that it was a Finnbarr tune that cleared the dancefloor at Summer Gathering but which one was it?
Was just checking out the TID November charts and there's one from Brisk and one from Finnbarr and that reminded me. Those charts aren't bad this month.
This one!
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2016/11/17 : 23:58:15
Hang on, that cleared the floor?!
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Mickey Init
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Posted - 2016/11/18 : 00:05:57
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Originally posted by Thumpa:
This one!
Not heard it before. Thought it might've been Morning Sun, that was all. There's not a lot on Finnbarr's SoundCloud.
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