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DJ Vibes - The worst DJ in hardcore?

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Kebab Head
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Posted - 2013/07/05 :  20:02:02  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Kebab Head's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by kathryn:
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Originally posted by Kebab Head:
Listen to his mixes from the 90s, through to present day.... This guy is ****in shocking with a mixer!!

He should easily hands down win the worst DJ in hardcore hands down!

How the **** has he had a career for like over 20 bloody years?

And he still plays the same set over and over, you'd think playing the same 20 tunes over a 20 year period he would of figured out how to master the art of mixing those same tunes with perfection.....



What a first class tit you are!!!!!

Vibes is 1 of the main reasons there is happy hardcore, his mixing style is loved by many.

The reason he is still going for 20 years as you say is because people like his style, genuine character and he still pulls crowds!




Go and hang yourself

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Kebab Head
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Posted - 2013/07/05 :  20:05:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Kebab Head's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Elliott:
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Originally posted by Kebab Head:
Listen to his mixes from the 90s, through to present day.... This guy is ****in shocking with a mixer!!

He should easily hands down win the worst DJ in hardcore hands down!

How the **** has he had a career for like over 20 bloody years?

And he still plays the same set over and over, you'd think playing the same 20 tunes over a 20 year period he would of figured out how to master the art of mixing those same tunes with perfection.....


Yeah, he's a terrible DJ.

I don't know what half the people in this thread are smoking but **** this rose-tinted spectacle ********, he's technically awful. Trainwrecked almost every transition in almost every set I've ever heard of his.

Apologies in advance for looking at it realistically but if you genuinely believe Vibes is a good DJ then you're either deaf or, far more likely, you've just been heavily tainted by reminiscence.



If it wasn't me that posted it then maybe the replies would if been different, who knows!

Fact is as a DJ is is dreadful and like you say being a nice chap isn't the skill and art of mixing music in time and without sounding ****in shit

Vibes can single handedly destroy good music just by "mixing" it


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don_simon3000
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Posted - 2013/07/05 :  20:27:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit don_simon3000's homepage  Reply with quote
ok vibes might not be the best dj because - as far as i can take out of this thread - he messes up transitions. i am fine with that. as a hobby dj who also regulary messes up transitions and other stuff i think its easy to critisize but difficult to be perfect.
actually if i love the style, happy hardcore for that matter, i dont trash and bash my dj's. hardcore scene is not that big anymore that we could allow this.
no need to love every dj or every song, but some people might better switch to different music style if dj vibes is so bad for them.


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Posted - 2013/07/05 :  21:34:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mental_Adam's homepage  Reply with quote
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does eating kebabs have any bad substantial consequences on your brain condition?




It's a disgusting food and i think substantial consequences on the brain yet overall health should be considered at all costs


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Posted - 2013/07/05 :  23:09:54  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
Makes no difference who posted it, to me. I maintain what i said.



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Posted - 2013/07/05 :  23:22:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
The poster of this thread and a few other detractors completely miss the point of a DJ. Going off what's been said by them they would prefer to listen to/see a DJ that is technically perfect but plays shit tunes? That makes absolutely no sense.

DJ Vibes has never been known to be the best mixer, and he will never claim to be either. But the over exaggeration of the apparent 'poorness' of his transitions is ridiculous. 9 times out of 10 I don't pay that much attention to the mixing in Vibes' set because he's doing a ****ing amazing job of playing outstanding tunes.

And oftentimes I've found his mixing superb, or rather, just what was required - nothing spectacular but just what was required. He's never outright played an awful set be it with tune selection or mixing, granted he has both played some woeful tunes and made the odd clanger but not enough to make me think '****ing hell, what a shit DJ!' No, quite the opposite really, he's one of my favourites!


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Edited by - Gaz Terror on 2013/07/05 23:24:34
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Posted - 2013/07/05 :  23:54:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elliott's homepage  Reply with quote
To be fair though, it is pretty damn hard to accidentally play a whole set of shit tunes unless you just have terrible taste in music -- which, for someone who can produce tunes of Vibes' calibre, would seem somewhat unlikely.

I think the major difference of opinion here comes down to how much emphasis you place on the technical aspects of a mix. I'll freely admit that, for me, that's quite a strong emphasis. I'm not saying I'd listen to a mix full of tunes I didn't like just because the mixing was good - of course I wouldn't - but I do find bad mixing really rather jarring even on a top set of tracks (and, don't get me wrong, I do think Vibes plays a good set list).

Additionally, I'll concede that at live events, track selection is a much higher priority than technical mixing skill. I've never seen Vibes play out though so that aspect is a bit lost on me; especially considering that, at home, I could throw together a Winamp playlist of one of his set lists and just listen to that without any dodgy transitions.

So, ultimately, yeah, whilst I can kind of see where some of you are coming from, I still hold that he's really quite bad technically and that, from my perspective, track choice isn't going to change my opinion.

For everyone defending him from a technical perspective, go listen to his mix from the HTID1 pack and come back to me. It's easily the worst mix I've ever heard on a HTID pack. He did play Rave Dog though and I ****ing love Rave Dog.


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Edited by - Elliott on 2013/07/06 00:00:46
Kebab Head
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Posted - 2013/07/06 :  00:43:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Kebab Head's homepage  Reply with quote
Time selection does not define a DJ

Obviously it's massively important as its what people want to hear good music.... But for a DJ who can't mix for shit and to have a 20 yea career out of it when there's far better out there than can't even get bookings totally takes the piss


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Posted - 2013/07/06 :  00:45:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Kebab Head's homepage  Reply with quote
Also I did state he plays shot tunes I merely said that he plays the same 20 as it seems every set I've heard has just been the same helter skelter from the 90s to present day!!! U can pick ur own skelter set as they are all the bloody same

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Posted - 2013/07/06 :  03:14:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ_FunDaBounce's homepage  Reply with quote
I only own one tape pack with him on it (Slammin Vinyl at bagleys in sept. '98). heard maybe a couple more online, but that's it. mixing wise Brisk blew the rest away on that pack, though the general vibe on Vibes' set is pure class. Effin' great track selection for the era!

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Kebab Head
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Posted - 2013/07/06 :  06:51:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Kebab Head's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
I only own one tape pack with him on it (Slammin Vinyl at bagleys in sept. '98). heard maybe a couple more online, but that's it. mixing wise Brisk blew the rest away on that pack, though the general vibe on Vibes' set is pure class. Effin' great track selection for the era!



That's all every is going on about (bar a few) his bloody track selection, missing the whole point of the thread as a DJ that can't actually mix as a DJ should!

He is crap as a DJ that can mix


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don_simon3000
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Posted - 2013/07/06 :  07:40:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit don_simon3000's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Kebab Head:
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Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
I only own one tape pack with him on it (Slammin Vinyl at bagleys in sept. '98). heard maybe a couple more online, but that's it. mixing wise Brisk blew the rest away on that pack, though the general vibe on Vibes' set is pure class. Effin' great track selection for the era!



That's all every is going on about (bar a few) his bloody track selection, missing the whole point of the thread as a DJ that can't actually mix as a DJ should!

He is crap as a DJ that can mix



i had this written already, thought if it was needed to post and decided against it. but since you constantly are going on about it i will write it one more time:

lets say vibes does bad mixes/transitions. yet people love him. well thats life. its often unfair. many people obviously love some imperfection and "amateurism". thats not only why obama won the white house, but also i can see it daily with myself. despite having a nearly perfect body because of my daily workouts i cant find a bf since 1,5 years. and then i see some ugly ****s with fat bellys and they got a partner and i just say to myself: wtf?!
so you see its unfair. there are probably many many other examples where we could state the same and yet it wont change a thing.
strongly suspecting you are not the next dj hixxy either i can only repeat what i said some posts above: if you dont like vibes, listen to another one. it should not be that difficult. and if you still end up listening to him it probably IS because of his track selection :P


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Posted - 2013/07/06 :  08:43:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Kebab Head's homepage  Reply with quote
I see what you are saying but from a music point of view DJin is seen as an art form and vibes is meant to be a professional DJ and he is far from it



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Posted - 2013/07/06 :  10:02:32  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
How many of his sets have you listened to? His mixing isn't bad.



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Posted - 2013/07/06 :  10:20:10  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Jacco's homepage  Reply with quote
Pointless to rant about someone whos being successful for so many years...



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