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motivated
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 Posted - 2005/10/03 : 13:12:15
id say most likely that it IS there ignorance, yes it was pretty chipmokey sounding and pianos tonking ans shit like that, but it has also come along way, the technology used for creating sounds has advanced, and the puzzle of putting it together had been more or less figured out...i know i sound like i shouldnt be talking cos im younger than most of ye, but i think that hardcore in its early stages was GOLDEN, it is getting more high tech and more sounds are being produced, however, as i have said in the other post, it is starting to sound simalar, but, hey, as it evolves, we can all watch is GROW!, lol, yeah i had a corny moment,...so shoot me.
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Mortis
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 13:20:57
quote:
Originally posted by deejaybee:
The only thing I would change at the moment is to dump the 'Happy Go Lucky'
image of hardcore in the media and go with a much more mature look and feel.
Agreed I said the same thing in two topics a while ago "Best album covers" & "What should be the new Bonkers theme".
I totally agree with the rest of what Mr Bee said aswell, I personally love the "New" style of hardcore, I admit it can get dull sometimes, but the old skool got dull at times aswell. Theirs only so many times I can hear women singing about how much they love you or miss you before I feel like vomiting.
I think the producers should stick with the current style, maybe vary sometimes (listen up Scott Brown). And I think the "fans" should stop complaining, If you don't like it, don't listen to it and complain about how much you don't like it.
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dr0p_dead_fred
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 13:21:57
quote:
Originally posted by deejaybee:
"if it isnt broke.. dont fix it"
This was the problem, the scene has a recession due to the sound going stale.
if you cast your mind back a few years to when Hardcore was dead as a dodo!
The new trancey sound that you seem to dislike was the sound that revived
the scene and created a new bass for us all to work from.
So I have to differ and say it was broken, and we did fix it.
Also.. as for the amature production of yesterday, that is past, producers who
were producing that material were producing to the highest standard that they
could back then and that is exactly what they are doing today.
The difference is that the skills they have in the studio have increased over
the years, as has technology.
You may think the production added character but I dissagree, hardcore
sounds better than ever now it has a production level that is credible.
This is also why you find hardcore has more commercial intrest, larger labels,
artists and the like are checking the new sound and giving it respect for what
it is... a well produced music genre.
The only thing I would change at the moment is to dump the 'Happy Go Lucky'
image of hardcore in the media and go with a much more mature look and feel.
You can see our attempts at this with the new Higher State branding...
www.higherstatemusic.co.uk
*listens to the samples*
id say your the one firing this thread with your music and your wimpy version of sunrise
you are seriously taking hardcore in a backwards direction and im ashamed your tracks actually got signed
just my opinion....
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Mortis
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 13:42:39
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Originally posted by dr0p_dead_fred:
id say your the one firing this thread with your music and your wimpy version of sunrise
you are seriously taking hardcore in a backwards direction and im ashamed your tracks actually got signed
just my opinion....
Could you do better?
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dr0p_dead_fred
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 13:45:19
yeah im sure i could do better if i spent an hour actually making a track
all deejaybee is famous for is ruining a pretty alright track
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 13:51:33
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Originally posted by dr0p_dead_fred:
yeah im sure i could do better if i spent an hour actually making a track
Go on then..
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dr0p_dead_fred
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 13:53:44
now i couldnt do that
unlike deejay bee i have too many ethical problems with downloading the software that HE uses, hell he probably begged his parents to buy it for him...
maybe once i get some money in the bank i can show you
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 13:56:28
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Originally posted by dr0p_dead_fred:
maybe once i get some money in the bank i can show you
I'm sure you will.
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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 13:57:24
A Challenge for drop_dead_fred.....
In the meantime has it occured to anyone that producers also evolve.....
Maybe they don't want to make the same old thing time and time again.
Try this for an example -
http://www.ionosphere.co.uk/AUDIO/Ionosphere_NOISE.mp3
???
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deejaybee
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 14:16:32
quote:
Originally posted by dr0p_dead_fred:
quote:
Originally posted by deejaybee:
"if it isnt broke.. dont fix it"
This was the problem, the scene has a recession due to the sound going stale.
if you cast your mind back a few years to when Hardcore was dead as a dodo!
The new trancey sound that you seem to dislike was the sound that revived
the scene and created a new bass for us all to work from.
So I have to differ and say it was broken, and we did fix it.
Also.. as for the amature production of yesterday, that is past, producers who
were producing that material were producing to the highest standard that they
could back then and that is exactly what they are doing today.
The difference is that the skills they have in the studio have increased over
the years, as has technology.
You may think the production added character but I dissagree, hardcore
sounds better than ever now it has a production level that is credible.
This is also why you find hardcore has more commercial intrest, larger labels,
artists and the like are checking the new sound and giving it respect for what
it is... a well produced music genre.
The only thing I would change at the moment is to dump the 'Happy Go Lucky'
image of hardcore in the media and go with a much more mature look and feel.
You can see our attempts at this with the new Higher State branding...
www.higherstatemusic.co.uk
*listens to the samples*
id say your the one firing this thread with your music and your wimpy version of sunrise
you are seriously taking hardcore in a backwards direction and im ashamed your tracks actually got signed
just my opinion....
Ah excellent,
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinions, im actully slightly embarassed for
you considering you had to lower yourself down the point of mentioning my
mum in a post you made on the internet.
Although by your posts I can tell you are obviously a troubled individual, I
do feel the need to post a few things...
All I am 'famous' for is ruining a pretty decent track? Just to let you know...
I have had multiple releases now, on many labels, and at the same time ive
had many tunes on different albums and these tunes are being played at
every rave that you will attend in the UK, from small local nights to large
multi arena events such as uproar & slammin vinyl.
in the intrest of hardcore, what I also do is 'engineer' that means, I sit down
and write hardcore for other artists who cant use studios properly and take
absolutly no credit for it.
this kick starts other peoples careers into hardcore, this is something that
I dont HAVE to do.
Im not sure why you feel you have the right to try and belittle someone
else who has spent years practising and prfecting a craft such as production!
Ok, you dont like the tracks, sorry to sound nasty mate... but if im honest,
I dont care... i dont make music for you, I make it for me, if you like it, thats
great, if you dont... yay!
Its funny, your post has absolutly no relevance to this thread at all.
You my friend, are actully an embaresment to yourself and everyone
associated with you.
Thanks.
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dr0p_dead_fred
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 14:23:26
quote:
Originally posted by deejaybee:
quote:
Originally posted by dr0p_dead_fred:
quote:
Originally posted by deejaybee:
"if it isnt broke.. dont fix it"
This was the problem, the scene has a recession due to the sound going stale.
if you cast your mind back a few years to when Hardcore was dead as a dodo!
The new trancey sound that you seem to dislike was the sound that revived
the scene and created a new bass for us all to work from.
So I have to differ and say it was broken, and we did fix it.
Also.. as for the amature production of yesterday, that is past, producers who
were producing that material were producing to the highest standard that they
could back then and that is exactly what they are doing today.
The difference is that the skills they have in the studio have increased over
the years, as has technology.
You may think the production added character but I dissagree, hardcore
sounds better than ever now it has a production level that is credible.
This is also why you find hardcore has more commercial intrest, larger labels,
artists and the like are checking the new sound and giving it respect for what
it is... a well produced music genre.
The only thing I would change at the moment is to dump the 'Happy Go Lucky'
image of hardcore in the media and go with a much more mature look and feel.
You can see our attempts at this with the new Higher State branding...
www.higherstatemusic.co.uk
*listens to the samples*
id say your the one firing this thread with your music and your wimpy version of sunrise
you are seriously taking hardcore in a backwards direction and im ashamed your tracks actually got signed
just my opinion....
Ah excellent,
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinions, im actully slightly embarassed for
you considering you had to lower yourself down the point of mentioning my
mum in a post you made on the internet.
Although by your posts I can tell you are obviously a troubled individual, I
do feel the need to post a few things...
All I am 'famous' for is ruining a pretty decent track? Just to let you know...
I have had multiple releases now, on many labels, and at the same time ive
had many tunes on different albums and these tunes are being played at
every rave that you will attend in the UK, from small local nights to large
multi arena events such as uproar & slammin vinyl.
in the intrest of hardcore, what I also do is 'engineer' that means, I sit down
and write hardcore for other artists who cant use studios properly and take
absolutly no credit for it.
this kick starts other peoples careers into hardcore, this is something that
I dont HAVE to do.
Im not sure why you feel you have the right to try and belittle someone
else who has spent years practising and prfecting a craft such as production!
Ok, you dont like the tracks, sorry to sound nasty mate... but if im honest,
I dont care... i dont make music for you, I make it for me, if you like it, thats
great, if you dont... yay!
Its funny, your post has absolutly no relevance to this thread at all.
You my friend, are actully an embaresment to yourself and everyone
associated with you.
Thanks.
oh so she did buy that software for you? well at least i wasnt wrong, i wasnt trying to belittle you i just was giving some honest criticism
i actually have NEVER heard ANY of your tracks at a rave here in canada, and trust me i would notice but none of the djs would play a track of yours cus it would most likely clear the dancefloor anywhere
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deejaybee
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 14:30:45
quote:
Originally posted by dr0p_dead_fred:
quote:
Originally posted by deejaybee:
quote:
Originally posted by dr0p_dead_fred:
quote:
Originally posted by deejaybee:
"if it isnt broke.. dont fix it"
This was the problem, the scene has a recession due to the sound going stale.
if you cast your mind back a few years to when Hardcore was dead as a dodo!
The new trancey sound that you seem to dislike was the sound that revived
the scene and created a new bass for us all to work from.
So I have to differ and say it was broken, and we did fix it.
Also.. as for the amature production of yesterday, that is past, producers who
were producing that material were producing to the highest standard that they
could back then and that is exactly what they are doing today.
The difference is that the skills they have in the studio have increased over
the years, as has technology.
You may think the production added character but I dissagree, hardcore
sounds better than ever now it has a production level that is credible.
This is also why you find hardcore has more commercial intrest, larger labels,
artists and the like are checking the new sound and giving it respect for what
it is... a well produced music genre.
The only thing I would change at the moment is to dump the 'Happy Go Lucky'
image of hardcore in the media and go with a much more mature look and feel.
You can see our attempts at this with the new Higher State branding...
www.higherstatemusic.co.uk
*listens to the samples*
id say your the one firing this thread with your music and your wimpy version of sunrise
you are seriously taking hardcore in a backwards direction and im ashamed your tracks actually got signed
just my opinion....
Ah excellent,
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinions, im actully slightly embarassed for
you considering you had to lower yourself down the point of mentioning my
mum in a post you made on the internet.
Although by your posts I can tell you are obviously a troubled individual, I
do feel the need to post a few things...
All I am 'famous' for is ruining a pretty decent track? Just to let you know...
I have had multiple releases now, on many labels, and at the same time ive
had many tunes on different albums and these tunes are being played at
every rave that you will attend in the UK, from small local nights to large
multi arena events such as uproar & slammin vinyl.
in the intrest of hardcore, what I also do is 'engineer' that means, I sit down
and write hardcore for other artists who cant use studios properly and take
absolutly no credit for it.
this kick starts other peoples careers into hardcore, this is something that
I dont HAVE to do.
Im not sure why you feel you have the right to try and belittle someone
else who has spent years practising and prfecting a craft such as production!
Ok, you dont like the tracks, sorry to sound nasty mate... but if im honest,
I dont care... i dont make music for you, I make it for me, if you like it, thats
great, if you dont... yay!
Its funny, your post has absolutly no relevance to this thread at all.
You my friend, are actully an embaresment to yourself and everyone
associated with you.
Thanks.
oh so she did buy that software for you? well at least i wasnt wrong, i wasnt trying to belittle you i just was giving some honest criticism
i actually have NEVER heard ANY of your tracks at a rave here in canada, and trust me i would notice but none of the djs would play a track of yours cus it would most likely clear the dancefloor anywhere
This people, is why we keep the cartoon graphics, the happy go lucky image
and the pop cheese factor...
We are trying to appeal with kids thast have absolutly no level of maturity.
By the way, ive heard frisky and hujib play many of my tunes. In Canada.
This will be my last post on HappyHardcore.Com
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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 14:38:40
if there IS other types of hardcore being made besides the popular (not sure how it's popular) stale asda-core style then how come it's not getting on the CDs, the DJs aren't spinning it etc?
I go to a rave and I get bored....
I think the answer is build a tardis (which I would love to build) and go back to 95 when it was about fun and having a laff with your friends in your empty lager cans infested shitty bedroom studio with just an amiga and a cheapo akai-sampler!
well ****it'n'dammit I'll just write my own shit and have bedroom raves in my bedroom cause you money-monkies are only pleasing the joe-in-street crowd. fact.
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 14:45:51
A. If a genre of music doesn't evolve it will die, there is only so much that can be done with a set selection of sounds before it all starts to sound the same.
B. I can't understand the logic behind wanting tracks to be produced to a lower standard thats just stupid.
C. Not all hardcore tracks are produced by Raver Baby, if you bothered to actually look into it you would find there is a large variety of sounds about at the moment.
D. When I were a wee lad I was a townie as were all of my freinds and guess what... we all listened to hardcore from and predating 1995 :P
E. Deejaybee is a very talented producer.
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 14:47:49
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Originally posted by deejaybee:
[This will be my last post on HappyHardcore.Com
deejaybee
I don't think you should leave the forum cos of one complete and utter w@nker!!
I am sure most of the people on here respect you as a professional artist and enjoy your work.
We are not all immature little shlts!!!
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