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Da Cunney Bugz
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 Posted - 2006/03/10 : 14:01:01
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Originally posted by Da Cunney Bugz:
another point which will boggle your mind even further today, if one of your ancestors walked past a tree 50 years ago and breathed out as they went past it their breath is now part of that tree! coz of photosynthesis crap using the carbon dioxide from which we breath out!
Such as if we die in a field, the carbon from us that results in the grass growing which then the cow eats and then the cow is killed then our mother has a hamburger the following week, she is eating her son!
then when your mum has a big healthy poo it will find its way to the sewer which will fertilise a plant which then some bug will eat then a rat will eat the bug then the rat will run down wigan road therefore im running down wigan road! its all one big happy cycle, can that be argued as a form of re-incarnation? its still a part of you in another creature although you are not aware of it??
You really need a job Cunney!!
lol is my insanity showing after only one day of un-employment? lol
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XtarsiA
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Posted - 2006/03/10 : 14:02:50
me = existentialist
as for bone thinking what i said was a contradiction of his theory it wasent (IMO).
the seperation between our "universe" and gods, is that of understanding.(as is my interpretation of bones theory)
proclaiming, that we are created by / under the controll of god, is daft.
for those that "KNOW" god exists,
god didnt make "US", he made our bodys, not our souls.
for what purpose would a GOD create something that isnt perfect?
prehaps, ppl saying, we were made, we cant do anything about it, is just small way of excuseing ourselves from our weeknesses, we are here to learn and overcome our weeknesses.
writing a book, is a very good analogy of life i think. though the outcome will be more than just a "book" as i think it will serve more purpose for us or god..
on a different level, i think god and us, could be viewed as parent and child.
a child cant comprehend lots of things, yet there ability to comprehend, grows, as there learning and understanding of things grows too.
let a child loose in a science lab, they'll probably kill them selves.
but what about emotional things? dealing with our selves, and our impulses, were are here primarily i think, to learn to deal with those kind things, and untill we can master controll of our selves, i think god, will be holding alot of knowledge back from us.
i see no reason why god would prevent us progressing to any level and even untill we would become like him, aslong as were we able to be responsable.
as Ionosphere said about evil being to far gone... it can happen to ppl too. and its up to us wether to embrace the reality, that we must overcome our selves and not give up because of our weekness.
have i been making sense? lol
this has been yet another waffle brought to u by me :D
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_BoNe_
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Posted - 2006/03/10 : 14:19:50
Why couldn't God of made our souls? we don't truly know if a God exists, and if he does we don't know what he's done, what he's capable of. He could have made our souls, if souls exist, we just don't know.
Why do people believe that God created us with good intentions? Maybe we were an accident? Maybe an experiment? We don't know that God was trying to perfect us. Why is it not possible that God didn't want to make something that is perfect?
Why do you think there is another level we can go to? Why do you think God could get us there?
There are so many possibilities... we just don't know.
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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2006/03/10 : 15:33:41
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what freedom?
If you dont believe in that god, then u go to hell!
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I think you'll find that most Christian denominations don't teach that any more, it's an 'old fashioned' doctrine.
....which then begs the question 'Is religion subject to fashion?'.
It seems to be, which illustrates my earlier point:-
"Don't confuse God with 'religion" as religion evolves or is blatantly altered to suit men's purposes....
....and so the original message loses it's simple purity.
Bone's post, "Why couldn't God of made our souls?" is a good question.
Just for a moment, consider this -
In the beginning there was a void, nothing, sweet f a.
Now, if you were God, just beginning to be aware that you existed, and that could have taken a very long time,
and then you had a very very very long time to be alone, by your self, in an endless 'nothing',
..........wouldn't you get lonely?
If you realised, during all of this very long time that you could do stuff,
wouldn't you try to do something about it?
You could amuse yourself for billions of years making things, destroying things, experimenting with things....
....watching stuff Evolve naturally.... but
who can you share it with?
Wouldn't you want to have someone like yourself, with your intelligence, your hopes, your emotions, your love?
Wouldn't you want to create something like yourself, with a small part of yourself, your 'Soul',
and then give it total Free Will so that it is not just a simple 'copy' of you but a being with a mind of it's own?
If so, how long would it take for that 'child' to develope into someone that could talk to you, on a similar level to you?
One short lifetime on Earth and then Heaven or Hell?
I don't think so.
I could be wrong....
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_BoNe_
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Posted - 2006/03/10 : 16:00:55
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Now, if you were God, just beginning to be aware that you existed, and that could have taken a very long time,
and then you had a very very very long time to be alone, by your self, in an endless 'nothing',
..........wouldn't you get lonely?
God is a God. Unique to every other lifeform we know of. Maybe he doesn't get lonely and is completely content with being on his lonesome. Maybe he isn't on his lonesome as he is a collection of multiple being merged as one.
I know i keep coming up with these 'maybe' comments, but as i've said... we just don't know. There are billions of possibilities that can be considered. People keep limiting themselves to "God can't exist because science dominates all" and "God can't do this because we wouldn't do that" etc etc...
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The Doc
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Posted - 2006/03/11 : 00:30:37
how can god exist when I don't beleive in its existance! it doesn't exist with me hence it doesn't exist! exsitance is to exist otherwise we would all say F**K existance! so why are we here? to exist!
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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2006/03/11 : 01:51:02
That's a load of bollocks.
If a tree falls in a forest and nobody sees it, hears it or knows about it and you don't believe it could happen,
does that mean that it hasn't fallen?
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Posted - 2006/03/11 : 03:39:50
I think God started life:D
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