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bent_bananna
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Posted - 2006/08/21 :  19:15:41  Show profile Send a private message
I get ripped all the time for listening to hardcore. Its all i listen to and most people cant stand hearing me play it. They say its alright to dance to at raves but they wouldn't listen to it any other time. And they say its embarrissing when i drive round with my windows down and my tunes bangin.
Does anyone else get this abuse?


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No I don't, and it wouldn't matter to me if I did.

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Posted - 2006/08/21 :  20:50:55  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit tru bass's homepage
i get praised for listening to hardcore.. most the people i know think i have a great music taste!

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Posted - 2006/08/21 :  20:56:07  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Uproar's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by bent_bananna:
They say its alright to dance to at raves but they wouldn't listen to it any other time.


Do they go to raves?


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Posted - 2006/08/21 :  21:12:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit clarke101's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by bent_bananna:
Its all i listen to



That might be why


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Posted - 2006/08/21 :  21:17:21  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Underloop's homepage
define cool

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Posted - 2006/08/21 :  22:36:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dain-Ja's homepage
I live in Canada

cool here is 50 cent for most people
or punk I guess

obviously listening to lovey dovey vocal uk hardcore is not that cool. I love it but it'll never be cool...

The rougher stuff seems to be more widely accepted by people I know outside the "scene"

In fact most people like the music...but they still don't think it's "cool" alot of the time


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Posted - 2006/08/21 :  23:09:29  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Ionosphere's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by bent_bananna:

....And they say its embarrissing when i drive round with my windows down and my tunes bangin.




Isn't it embarrassing driving around banging music out to everyone, whether they want to hear it or not,

regardless of the style?

That's never been truly cool....

....because most people only think that you're a prat.


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Underloop
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Posted - 2006/08/21 :  23:29:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Underloop's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
I live in Canada

cool here is 50 cent for most people
or punk I guess

obviously listening to lovey dovey vocal uk hardcore is not that cool. I love it but it'll never be cool...

The rougher stuff seems to be more widely accepted by people I know outside the "scene"

In fact most people like the music...but they still don't think it's "cool" alot of the time



Cool to me is about being yourself regardless of what other people think. A few extremes (from the music biz) all of which are classed as "cool". You already mentioned 50 cent. Jarvis Cocker (well a few years ago perhaps heh), Robbie Williams, Christina, Marilyn Manson. What have they all got in common? Well it sure as hell ain't clothes/style/taste in music. Its the fact that they are individuals. Being yourself is what makes you cool.

The way I see it is, I'm going to be me. You can either like me, or not like me, I don't care. If you don't like me, chances are I prob won't get on with you anyway, so its no great loss to me. I'd rather one person liked me for who I was than a hundred liked me for who I acted like. Am I cool? Who cares! :-) </rant over>


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Posted - 2006/08/21 :  23:36:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Jax's homepage
ive never really had anyone take the piss cause i listen to hardcore, just most people i know dont really like it. thats their choice, doesnt bother me in the slightest.

im a culprit of driving about (when i had a license anyhow) with my tunes full blast, but thats cause i like my music loud not cause i want attention, i couldnt care less what people think [@:P]


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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2006/08/21 :  23:37:52  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Ionosphere's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Underloop:

....I'd rather one person liked me for who I was....




as many as that?


and Jax mate, we've all driven with the music blasting out but as you say,

it's the reason why that counts.


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DJBrownout
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Posted - 2006/08/21 :  23:38:48  Show profile  Send a private message
i can't even tell people what i listen to because everyone i know listens to rap/rock mainstream crap.



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Brian K
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Posted - 2006/08/21 :  23:55:07  Show profile  Send a private message
it may be uncool to some people, but I get props from several djs that even if they don't like what I play they respect that I still love playing what I spin

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Underloop
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Posted - 2006/08/22 :  00:34:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Underloop's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:
quote:
Originally posted by Underloop:

....I'd rather one person liked me for who I was....




as many as that?



OK, OK, I just want one person to like me!! Just one sodding person, its not too much to ask is it? Dognammit!!!


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Posted - 2006/08/22 :  00:41:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sk8SiM's homepage
This is the problem though! You ALL shouldn’t feel embarrassed!!!!

See me, I get ripped out of me for walking around wearing "hardcore movement" tops and "raver" t-shirts! But I just call the ****ers narrow-minded! Cuse they can rip the piss, yet won't listen to me when I fill there head with like 3-4 hour debates hehe :P

See I like to promote my scene! I like the feeling of walking around the streets showing everyone what I'm into, by the simple means of a t-shirt.... for one reason!

SO OTHERS THAT ARE INTO THE SAME THING! CAN FIND ME!!!
Sitting there, hiding your music taste and feeling gay! ent going to make you find someone you can relate to is it!!

Only thing is... since I’ve started wearing those tops... the only people I’ve had talk to me with intress... Are gay little 13-14 year old chavs, asking me things like
"So do you go htid?"
Lol - nice! Lets just say, doesn't give me the best reassurance of the hardcore scene!

At the mo though... one of the main things I do... and my goal is to promote the message that

THERES MORE TO HARDCORE THEN WHAT PEOPLE THINK!!!!

So when I do get these little DJ cammy & raverbaby ****ers come up to me...
I just fill there head with knowledge of breaks, freeform, and bouncy stuff!
And you know what I get back...

"*sucks teeth* narrr freeforms shit man,
gabba - you a goth or something, that stuff is shite man
Breaks - you into drum & bass then?
^^^ bear in mind, take a look at the drum & bass scene these days (keep your self to yourself in other words) and put 2 and 2 together to see where this little **** is coming from!
Hardcores taking on the "attitude" root with these little ****s... all thanks to raverbaby! *put your hands together for them* (and there was me saying ALL THIS would happen from the beginning!)

Thing is though... and here me out!!
I KNOW FOR A FACT!!!

THAT’S TONS OF PEOPLE... MOST COMMON & GENUINE PEOPLE!!!
WOULD LOVE SOME OF THE MATERIAL INVOLED IN FREEFORM, BOUNCY TECHNO... AND MOST DEFO WITH BREAKS!!!
(e.g. The Prodigy)

JUST THERES NO EXPOSURE!!!!


I tell you... if only I could set up a huge tent in the middle Birmingham city centre... IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY!!! while people are walking about, doing there everyday thing....
with lights, sound, big screens with live sets and acts ect... from all underground based electronic... explaining diffrent styles and sounds ect... puting a message across of what “Hardcore” is REALLY ALL ABOUT!!!!
not just with the music itself... but also how’s it made in the production line so people have more knowledge of how electronic music is made in general, instead of them just going "oh its made on a computer" (or having some mother ****ers think its just all sampled on turntables!!!!!)

THEN I'D F*CKING DO IT!!!
I garneted once you feed it to them... you'll have TONS of people... all from different backgrounds, Goths, rockers... any of that lot... the youth... adults, kids, famirlys, old people ect! ALL JOINING IN THE FUN!!!

I WOULD PUT MONEY ON IT my friend!!!


Just that ^^^ would never happen!!!
So instead... we remain having narrow-minded pricks, who won't EVAN LISTEN TO YOU!!! Just judge the whole scene as sped up, vocal, untalented, cheesy CRAP!!!

PEOPLE JUST SIMPLY DON’T KNOW ENOUGH!!!
AND DON’T TREAT MUSIC AS PASSIONATELY AS OTHERS (ME )


But my point is!!!
IF NO PASSION FOR MUSIC!!!! THEN NO KNOWLEGDE!!!
IF NOT KNOWLEDGE… THEN NO RIGHT…. TO JUDGE A GENRE!


So just ignore your friends mate!
Unwind all your windows!!! AND BLAST TO YOUR HEARTS CONTENT!!!!

BE PROUD!!! OF YOUR OWN TATSE!!! THAT STAND YOU OUTSIDE OF THE CROWD!!!

Si


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Posted - 2006/08/22 :  00:44:32  Show profile  Send a private message
quote:
Originally posted by clarke101:
quote:
Originally posted by bent_bananna:
Its all i listen to


That might be why



haha, blunt

my question is why should you care what others think? it's just an opinion. now I remember why I hated jr. high & high school, it's mainly a bunch of bs of people trying to fit in.

just be yourself, listen to what you want to, and take all comments with a grain of salt


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