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Terra.Nova
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 Posted - 2009/02/22 : 19:24:51
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Originally posted by mj-dream:
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Originally posted by Terra.Nova:
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Originally posted by dj bugbear:
erm no offence to nova.. but im doing my own style of hardcore and my own vocals lol =p and no rights will go to nova =p stop changing the rules plz xD
None taken whats so ever mate! I thought it was a free for all anyway until I saw the rule change. I think it would be more fun if other ppl can submit vox too. I suspect the rules were changed due to a lack of interest from other ppl wanting to submit vocals. :o) I duno though cos this is the first time i've entered this so still learning about how it all works. Will be good to see what other ppl come up with though.
nice catchy vocal nova :P no pressure eh lol ;)
Lol no pressure at all *rolls eyes* hehe  I'm hardcore it's all good hehe.
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Audio X
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Posted - 2009/02/22 : 21:50:01
Just saw the updated rules. If credits are going to be going to be The Producer feat. Nova, then obviously the rights to the vocals should go to Nova. However, all other musical content should belong to the producer.
Perhaps we can rework this arrangement and come to some kind of split? Obviously whoever takes the vocals and uses them shouldn't be able to go off and sell the track without some kind of agreement with Nova, but at the same time I feel like the other side of the coin should hold true as well, where Nova couldn't just pick whichever track is the best and sell it without some kind of agreement with the producer.
Not that I would expect that kind of behaviour, but at the same time it's best to avoid any potential legal problems whatsoever where possible.
Better yet, I think we should put the entirety of this contest under a Creative Commons license, so that nobody can profit from it. :)
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Project-Industrial
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Posted - 2009/02/22 : 21:56:40
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Originally posted by Terra.Nova:
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Originally posted by dj bugbear:
erm no offence to nova.. but im doing my own style of hardcore and my own vocals lol =p and no rights will go to nova =p stop changing the rules plz xD
None taken whats so ever mate! I thought it was a free for all anyway until I saw the rule change. I think it would be more fun if other ppl can submit vox too. I suspect the rules were changed due to a lack of interest from other ppl wanting to submit vocals. :o) I duno though cos this is the first time i've entered this so still learning about how it all works. Will be good to see what other ppl come up with though.
na see .. my style of hardcore is either industrial or oldskool.. having to make uk hardcore would take me a half year practice prolly lol =p so i'd stick wif my own brute vocals and stuff =] else i'd make no chance in the competition ;) =p
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2009/02/22 : 22:06:08
Heres an interesting question.
What if you want to submit two different mixes of the same track?
Or what if you have time to use the vocals from two different tracks? Can you enter more than once?
I personally don't see the harm.... But i guess it goes to majority vote
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2009/02/22 : 22:21:40
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Originally posted by Audio X:
Just saw the updated rules. If credits are going to be going to be The Producer feat. Nova, then obviously the rights to the vocals should go to Nova. However, all other musical content should belong to the producer.
Perhaps we can rework this arrangement and come to some kind of split? Obviously whoever takes the vocals and uses them shouldn't be able to go off and sell the track without some kind of agreement with Nova, but at the same time I feel like the other side of the coin should hold true as well, where Nova couldn't just pick whichever track is the best and sell it without some kind of agreement with the producer.
Not that I would expect that kind of behaviour, but at the same time it's best to avoid any potential legal problems whatsoever where possible.
Better yet, I think we should put the entirety of this contest under a Creative Commons license, so that nobody can profit from it. :)
Nah, not a CCL cause, at least speaking for myself, I'll lose a bit of motivation (I don't like the idea of NEVER EVER being able to sell something).
Publishing rights should have a 50/50 split between the vocalist and the producer. It makes no sense for the vocalist to get 100% of publishing rights, but I agree that she should get something for her work.
Chances are nothing will happen with these tunes but we should still do this the right way.
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Project-Industrial
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Posted - 2009/02/22 : 23:29:15
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Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
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Originally posted by Audio X:
Just saw the updated rules. If credits are going to be going to be The Producer feat. Nova, then obviously the rights to the vocals should go to Nova. However, all other musical content should belong to the producer.
Perhaps we can rework this arrangement and come to some kind of split? Obviously whoever takes the vocals and uses them shouldn't be able to go off and sell the track without some kind of agreement with Nova, but at the same time I feel like the other side of the coin should hold true as well, where Nova couldn't just pick whichever track is the best and sell it without some kind of agreement with the producer.
Not that I would expect that kind of behaviour, but at the same time it's best to avoid any potential legal problems whatsoever where possible.
Better yet, I think we should put the entirety of this contest under a Creative Commons license, so that nobody can profit from it. :)
Nah, not a CCL cause, at least speaking for myself, I'll lose a bit of motivation (I don't like the idea of NEVER EVER being able to sell something).
Publishing rights should have a 50/50 split between the vocalist and the producer. It makes no sense for the vocalist to get 100% of publishing rights, but I agree that she should get something for her work.
Chances are nothing will happen with these tunes but we should still do this the right way.
i already know the track im going to enter wif shud ave winning potention if ppl arnt to much uk hardcore fetish lol :p but err.. if i thought it would be a best seller i wudnt enter the comp wif it =] its just a good motivation to finish something and have fun wif other producers really =] most likely wont share the samples.. vocals sure why not lol .. anyway point of this comp shudnt be making money or so.. it shud be just for fun.. thats the reason i started producing.. to put my emotions that i cant release on the outer world (ppl would die). it shud be fun and giving the producer a good feeling :D and ofc be entertaining for the one that listens it =] dont enter a comp if ya trying to get money out of it imo =p
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/02/22 : 23:29:39
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Originally posted by Audio X:
Better yet, I think we should put the entirety of this contest under a Creative Commons license, so that nobody can profit from it. :)
I thought that was what this was all about anyway? Just a friendly competition, no-one trying to make a profit, just have a bit of fun.
I personally dont think the tracks should be used to make a profit. But that's just my opinion, im sure others will disagree.
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Project-Industrial
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Posted - 2009/02/23 : 00:26:50
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by Audio X:
Better yet, I think we should put the entirety of this contest under a Creative Commons license, so that nobody can profit from it. :)
I thought that was what this was all about anyway? Just a friendly competition, no-one trying to make a profit, just have a bit of fun.
I personally dont think the tracks should be used to make a profit. But that's just my opinion, im sure others will disagree.
as said above =p agree... comps are just bout fun shudnt be about making cash
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2009/02/23 : 04:01:55
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by Audio X:
Better yet, I think we should put the entirety of this contest under a Creative Commons license, so that nobody can profit from it. :)
I thought that was what this was all about anyway? Just a friendly competition, no-one trying to make a profit, just have a bit of fun.
I personally dont think the tracks should be used to make a profit. But that's just my opinion, im sure others will disagree.
The point of the competition isn't to make profit (obviously, otherwise I'd just spend my time working on a track for a label instead of this comp.).
It's for fun.
BUT, if we have a CCL that means that if someone makes the best HHC track ever made, they can't even make a penny from it.
I don't see why we'd put that limitation. What happens to the track AFTER the competition is something we should deal with after all of this, not before, IMO.
But back to this...I'm excited to enter. It will be fun.
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2009/02/23 : 09:26:38
How do these rules sound?
Rules for the comp:
1. Hardcore tracks only please (this includes all sub-genres of Hardcore).
2. Vocals will be supplied by Nova.
3. Tracks should be credited producers name & Nova.
4. An agreement must be made between Nova and any producer before a track can be released. Publishing rights will be split 50/50 between the two people.
5. The track has to be produced by a member of the site and posted only here.
6. The winner will be voted by the members of the site.
7. We will be starting on March the 23rd if everything goes smoothly and tracks should be complete and handed in by May 1st at the latest.
PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE THREAD FOR ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS.
I'm seriously hanging from the weekend still so sorry if they make no sense. :P I really need some more sleep!
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2009/02/23 : 15:08:59
sounds good to me
I can host samples and create a poll with flash stream players I think
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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2009/02/23 : 16:50:40
It's quite straightforward.
This production Competition is little different to the previous two.
1. The lyrics have to be written by a member of the site. Publishing rights will goto the creators of the lyrics.
2. The vocals have to be sung by a member of the site, male or female, duet or combination of different singers.
3. The artist of the track will be the producers name, feat. the singers name.
4. The track has to be produced by a member of the site and posted only here.
5. The track can be remixed or further colibrated on by other members of the site if you post the project file.
Rule 1. is self explanatory.
Rule 3. implies that the track, or any proceeds from it, belong to the producer and singer but this can be easily clarified in the rules.
If the singer is different from the lyricist then it can be split three ways and this can be written into the rules.
There was another rule that may not be clear from reading the previous Comp rules
and this is mentioned for the benefit of dj bugbear -
Any lyrics or vocals can only be used if they are made available to everyone.
and I for one think that it's a very important rule, to keep the Competition fair, otherwise we could use
any vocals, from any singer as long as they were a member of this site....
It's not a problem for us, if that's the way you want to play it but it's not the way we want to play it.
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Project-Industrial
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Posted - 2009/02/23 : 17:59:58
*nods agreeing on the edits of Ionosphere*
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Terra.Nova
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Posted - 2009/02/23 : 22:15:25
The only thing i would change with the proposed rules is that if the singer and the lyrics/melody write is the same person it should be the producer & vocalist ... not Ft. Hehe me fussy 
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Project-Industrial
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Posted - 2009/02/23 : 23:02:35
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Originally posted by Terra.Nova:
The only thing i would change with the proposed rules is that if the singer and the lyrics/melody write is the same person it should be the producer & vocalist ... not Ft. Hehe me fussy
darling it might be some of mother nature's effects but i didnt get a frigging clue of wot ya ment lol
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