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production comp '09 - Producers revealed!

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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2009/02/24 :  14:39:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dain-Ja's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by bulby_g:

+ what Dain-Ja said is 100% correct. A big percentage of people who say they're taking part probably wont submit a finished track.



Speaking of which... Do we need to submit a whole track or just a sample long enough to judge the track?


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Posted - 2009/02/24 :  14:44:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
quote:
Originally posted by bulby_g:

+ what Dain-Ja said is 100% correct. A big percentage of people who say they're taking part probably wont submit a finished track.



Speaking of which... Do we need to submit a whole track or just a sample long enough to judge the track?



I think for previous years we decided the whole track was needed to properly judge. Perhaps we could add a volume fade at the start and end as well as making tracks 128kbps to make them even harder to steal and use?


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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2009/02/24 :  15:58:54  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dain-Ja's homepage  Reply with quote
hmm ok

I guess I have to write a whole track. That sucks, cause I'm slow at that :P


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Bulby no, change absolutely nothing, it's perfect as it is. I couldn't disagree more with what acidfluxx has said to be honest (nothing personal obviously), the whole point of a competition is to all work to a similar target, if you have different sets of vocals then where is the basis for comparison, and if there is no basis for comparison, where is the competition? There isn't any! The whole point is to see who can do the best with what they are given, that is where the competition is.
Aside from that i don't see why listening to the same vocal should get boring, because the context is completely different every time, no two songs are going to be the same. If anything it should be fun listening to how several people can interpret one thing so differently.


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Posted - 2009/02/24 :  16:27:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
hmm ok

I guess I have to write a whole track. That sucks, cause I'm slow at that :P



Haha. Yes you will you lazy git. :P

quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Bulby no, change absolutely nothing, it's perfect as it is. I couldn't disagree more with what acidfluxx has said to be honest (nothing personal obviously), the whole point of a competition is to all work to a similar target, if you have different sets of vocals then where is the basis for comparison, and if there is no basis for comparison, where is the competition? There isn't any! The whole point is to see who can do the best with what they are given, that is where the competition is.
Aside from that i don't see why listening to the same vocal should get boring, because the context is completely different every time, no two songs are going to be the same. If anything it should be fun listening to how several people can interpret one thing so differently.



Very good points there. I really don't think anyone else has a problem with the rules as they are...


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Posted - 2009/02/24 :  16:47:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Ken Masters's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Bulby no, change absolutely nothing, it's perfect as it is. I couldn't disagree more with what acidfluxx has said to be honest (nothing personal obviously), the whole point of a competition is to all work to a similar target, if you have different sets of vocals then where is the basis for comparison, and if there is no basis for comparison, where is the competition? There isn't any! The whole point is to see who can do the best with what they are given, that is where the competition is.
Aside from that i don't see why listening to the same vocal should get boring, because the context is completely different every time, no two songs are going to be the same. If anything it should be fun listening to how several people can interpret one thing so differently.




couldn't agree more^^ Everyone should be on equal terms & this is the best possible way.


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Posted - 2009/02/24 :  17:08:59  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Ionosphere's homepage  Reply with quote
Sorted.


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Posted - 2009/02/24 :  18:36:54  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Jay-Owen's homepage  Reply with quote
And there HAVE to be vocals? Cause I'm working on a pretty sweet instrumental mix called at the moment.



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Posted - 2009/02/24 :  20:59:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit grafik_bionix's homepage  Reply with quote
"1 entry per person" - does that mean its still ok to submit a collab track?

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"1 entry per person" - does that mean its still ok to submit a collab track?



It's OK to do a collaboration with someone else but that will be your only allowable entry.


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Posted - 2009/02/25 :  10:20:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage  Reply with quote
^^^ Yep. :)

quote:
Originally posted by Jay-Owen:
And there HAVE to be vocals? Cause I'm working on a pretty sweet instrumental mix called at the moment.



You have to use the vocals, yes. You can use them how you wish though, chop them up, pitch them, whatever.


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Posted - 2009/02/25 :  13:16:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Future_Shock's homepage  Reply with quote
I don't get why some of this is so hard to understand for some people.

Seriously comments like "everyone using the same vocal is going to take away variety"

Well, we arent releasing a ****ing bonkers are we?

Would you have a basketball game with one team playing basketball and one team playing soccer? No, it wouldn't ****ing work. Sure, theres less variety involved having both teams play basketball, but it means its a fair competition relying on skill.

IMO it's a good way to weed out the people with no imagination anyway. All the people with no imagination can have the same track, while the rest of us with actual ideas will sound different.

sheesh.

No offence to anyone.


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I don't get why some of this is so hard to understand for some people.



maybe cos it doesnt say we 'HAVE' to in the rules?


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Posted - 2009/02/25 :  16:24:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit choonland's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
Would you have a basketball game with one team playing basketball and one team playing soccer? No, it wouldn't ****ing work. Sure, theres less variety involved having both teams play basketball, but it means its a fair competition relying on skill.


excelent argument! though it would hilarius wacth such kind of game
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass
quote:
Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
I don't get why some of this is so hard to understand for some people.


maybe cos it doesnt say we 'HAVE' to in the rules?


I agree we must use the vocals, but yeah, please put it in the rules to avoid further arguments


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Edited by - choonland on 2009/02/25 16:25:34
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Posted - 2009/02/25 :  16:30:54  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage  Reply with quote
"2. Vocals will be supplied by Nova. These vocals must be used in your track."

Should cover it. :)


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