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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  00:39:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by _Jay_:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
dynamic pumping



Most arousing thing I've read in months.



I can always rely on getting a rise from you.


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Samination
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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  00:48:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by _Jay_:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
dynamic pumping



Most arousing thing I've read in months.



I can always rely on getting a rise from you.



ugh. you really don't need effort for that to happen. I just hope it doesn't happen at HU :P


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Edited by - Samination on 2012/11/08 00:49:01
latininxtc
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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  01:33:06  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
I don't think this is an absolute terrible track, but I like (NOT love) the electro sound. It probably sounds way better live though.

But it certainly does not do the original, and by original I'm sure you mean the 99 Hardcore mix and not the euro dance version, any type of justice. It's a relatively weaker sounding track. Does not have the impact that the hardcore version has.

Now a great example of a great remake of a classic is Darwin's take on Brisk & Kevin Energy's Unlock Ya Brain. I was actually worried this would not turn out good, but it was just f**king brilliant! A true remake, that stands alone yet still has the essence of the original track!


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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  01:38:52  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Archefluxx's homepage  Reply with quote
I commented, probably shouldn't have, but that's the way it goes.

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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  01:54:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Dopeman's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Archefluxx:
I commented, probably shouldn't have, but that's the way it goes.



i think you hit the nail on the head with that comment they are murdering hardcore...and it is a slow and painful death too :(

there is a comment a 1:00 that i had to get off my chest and put my point across i will not have crap like this being called hardcore and i don't think any REAL hardcore lover will either


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Edited by - The Dopeman on 2012/11/08 02:22:00
MaidenV
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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  02:57:07  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MaidenV's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
Now a great example of a great remake of a classic is Darwin's take on Brisk & Kevin Energy's Unlock Ya Brain. I was actually worried this would not turn out good, but it was just f**king brilliant! A true remake, that stands alone yet still has the essence of the original track!



The difference is Darwin is Darwin and Klubfiller is Klubfiller. All that needs to be said.

Also,

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Dopey:
would you ever see neophyte or any other big name dutch producer bringin dubstep or electro into hardcore




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Edited by - MaidenV on 2012/11/08 03:04:49
The Dopeman
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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  03:17:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Dopeman's homepage  Reply with quote
hmmmm thats one...any more?

also samination made a good point on sc

Samination at 1.00"@dj-dopey-1: Hard doesn't sell, unless you maybe move to holland.

it seems money is the driving force behind everything these days that makes me


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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  03:30:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MaidenV's homepage  Reply with quote
Judging by the fact that I cant think of any off the top of my head, it seems like the gabber people arent flocking to it en masse, so good on them.

Anyway, I'm not really passionate on this issue because the first time I ever heard Power of Love was in 2010. But I welcome any excuse to rip on Klubfiller because he's awful and his name reminds me of American clubber douchebags (which he probably dreams of being popular with).

"GOTTA APPEAL TO THE BRO CROWD, DUDE"

Also (again)

quote:
Originally posted by Archefluxx:
Perhaps you could murder some Bang! tracks


Oh Olly, dont be silly. No one would ever do that! Oh wait, yes they would.
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Edited by - MaidenV on 2012/11/08 03:33:15
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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  03:36:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MaidenV's homepage  Reply with quote
"Klubfiller is my favorite EDM music DJ"

-Your average raver, 2012




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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  03:54:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Dopeman's homepage  Reply with quote
in a few years time people will be saying "who the hell is klubfiller" we have to get rid of these people if hardcore is to survive...it's went on long enough i mean is it any wonder why we havn't heard much from scott brown for a while i don't think he wants his name associated with all of this dubcore/electrocore crap...the man pretty much defined hardcore when it 1st started and when the revival happened now he's doing the smart thing and laying low until this shit goes away...at least i hope he is



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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  04:12:54  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Dopeman:
in a few years time people will be saying "who the hell is klubfiller" we have to get rid of these people if hardcore is to survive...it's went on long enough i mean is it any wonder why we havn't heard much from scott brown for a while i don't think he wants his name associated with all of this dubcore/electrocore crap...the man pretty much defined hardcore when it 1st started and when the revival happened now he's doing the smart thing and laying low until this shit goes away...at least i hope he is





In a few years people are going to wonder who Scott Brown is. Can the man get any more incognito?


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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  04:30:52  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Dopeman's homepage  Reply with quote
maybe he's just left the scene without saying goodbye only time will tell i really hope he hasn't that would be a huge blow to our recovery hopes because i don't see anyone else who has the skills to pull the scene out of this slump

maybe it's a good thing if hardcore goes quiet for a while and resurfaces with a new and improved sound like what happened in 2002 but it has to be it's own sound and not ripping off any other genre like trance or dupstep etc we also need some fresh talent the likes of hixxy, sy, unknown, dougal, gammer and all the rest of them need to leave i think there are tons of brilliant producers out there they just aint getting noticed and getting the help they need to make it in this scene because of all the glory hoggers that currently populate it


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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  06:25:55  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit cruelcore1's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Vladel:
Twista records posted this on facebook today http://soundcloud.com/klubfiller/q-tex-power-of-love-re-con Basically it's those two guys utterly destroying hardcore gold with horrible electro noise. I posted the following comment in reply It's great till all that electro rubbish comes in and it becomes one of the biggest musical assassinations i have ever heard.

I think that's a very accurate description of the track in question which points back to the topic......
It just shouldn't be allowed.


I really don't understand your point. I heard far more "commercial" examples in these modern forms, and this one doesn't even have a minimal drop. This is sure one of the best 2012-commercial peaces for me, and very melodic making it remind me to 2003-2010 style.
You could have at least picked something that "really sucks", in other words shows all intruding elements in opinion of people with your music taste.

EDIT: And BTW, what does actually make you guys despise this style?


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Edited by - cruelcore1 on 2012/11/08 06:35:18
Breakbeat Jon
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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  08:22:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Breakbeat Jon's homepage  Reply with quote
Does anyone on this forum know what Electro is? This just sounds like the average trancy stuff thats been knocking around for years.
Are they murdering hardcore just like the Scotch people did to English hardcore in the mid 90s with there rubbish kickdrums? Or how trance ruined hardcore in the early two thousands? Or maybe peoples music tastes move on and hardcore reflects that.


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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2012/11/08 :  08:28:54  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Dopeman's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Breakbeat Jon:
Are they murdering hardcore just like the Scotch people did to English hardcore in the mid 90s with there rubbish kickdrums?




are you insane????? it was never hard until we made it hard pure fact plain and simple


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