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Chris Core
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 Posted - 2013/02/14 : 15:12:14
Hixxy needs his own disc again...he shared last year with re-con...do any of them get a say of who shares what? or do aatw decide?
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DJ Hellfury
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Posted - 2013/02/14 : 15:49:08
I guess aatw told them to share a cd to lower production costs
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2013/02/14 : 15:56:44
It's never been four CDs, so it won't be about reducing costs. They were probably (and may have been for the last few years) desperate to get Gammer on board somehow. He's so massively popular. Will definitely sell a few thousand more units with him on there.
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MaidenV
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Posted - 2013/02/14 : 17:54:31
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Originally posted by _Jay_:
It's never been four CDs, so it won't be about reducing costs. They were probably (and may have been for the last few years) desperate to get Gammer on board somehow. He's so massively popular. Will definitely sell a few thousand more units with him on there.
I think it's this and that Hixxy proabably just didnt have enough material to work with. I was suprised he had anything since his Soundcloud hasn't been updated since the last Clubland.
I'm kinda sorta eager to hear what he came up with, especially that one Ano Hi Yume.
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Samination
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Posted - 2013/02/14 : 18:03:34
What? But I. I thought it was Klubfiller as the 4th person... where the hell did I get Klubfiller from? The last part of CD3 looks like it has alot of Klubfiller tracks.
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2013/02/15 : 02:20:35
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Originally posted by Samination:
What? But I. I thought it was Klubfiller as the 4th person... where the hell did I get Klubfiller from? The last part of CD3 looks like it has alot of Klubfiller tracks.
Because Gammer works with Klubfiller on the hard dance/uk hard house label AWSUM.
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rafferty
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Posted - 2013/02/15 : 11:41:09
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
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Originally posted by Chris Core:
Think the Breeze preview of clxh9 sounds great, a refreshing sound for hardcore, helping keep things new, varied and interesting within the genre....and as i only listen to hardcore i needed a less trancey sound to add variety to what I listen to...but I can see why it's divided opinion, ...it's all subjective, I just happen to like the different faces hardcore has
...but it's not Hardcore...it's a totally different genre.
Of course it's Hardcore, it's just a subgenre within Hardcore.
I totally agree with Chris Core, Breeze has made things interesting in Hardcore instead of doing the same old thing.
He's like f##k this. I'm going to try something different and stop being a clone that makes Hard Trance style strings and Cheesy Vocals at 170 bpm like almost every new producer trying to emulate a dated sound.
New prodution techniques is what the scene needs, that's how great genres like freeform started. From people with new ideas instead of putting out the same old shite.
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rafferty
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Posted - 2013/02/15 : 11:49:30
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Originally posted by Spyanova:
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Originally posted by Chris Core:
Think the Breeze preview of clxh9 sounds great, a refreshing sound for hardcore, helping keep things new, varied and interesting within the genre....and as i only listen to hardcore i needed a less trancey sound to add variety to what I listen to...but I can see why it's divided opinion, ...it's all subjective, I just happen to like the different faces hardcore has
But 80% of the previwe is not Hardcore. When you have only Hardcore, do you want to be listening to D&B and Dubstep?
I beg to differ, it's the same speed as Hardcore and can be mixed with Hardcore so it is Hardcore!!!. Hardcore has very few rules with the types of sounds you can use in a track.
You know when Trance strings came into the Hardcore scene back in the 2000's everyone used to say. This crap aint Hardcore it's Trance. Now that very same genre you are calling Hardcore. The true Hardcore is the 90's sound from Slipmatt, Ramos and Supreme.
Breezes music is a Subgenre of Hardcore. Actually if anything all these analogue dubby and Electro Hardcore tracks sound more like the traditional Hardcore than the Raver baby stuff ever did.
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2013/02/15 : 11:54:11
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I beg to differ, it's the same speed as Hardcore and can be mixed with Hardcore so it is Hardcore!!!. Hardcore has very few rules with the types of sounds you can use in a track.
Does that mean DnB is Hardcore too? ;)
Personally I like the stuff so it isn't a problem for me. I wouldn't play a full set myself but a few tracks mixed through some riffy stuff helps break things up and add some variety. Fair play to Breeze and crew for sticking to their guns and doing what they want, I respect that a lot. At the same time people are welcome to their opinions and should freely be able to voice their dislike on this sort of site.
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rafferty
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Posted - 2013/02/15 : 11:57:17
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When my copy comes I'm gonna tape a little piece of paper on the cover under "HARDCORE" that says "AND SOME OTHER STUFF"
You can put all the paper you want on there.
Fact is it's Hardcore:)
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Samination
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Posted - 2013/02/15 : 11:59:16
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Originally posted by rafferty:
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
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Originally posted by Chris Core:
Think the Breeze preview of clxh9 sounds great, a refreshing sound for hardcore, helping keep things new, varied and interesting within the genre....and as i only listen to hardcore i needed a less trancey sound to add variety to what I listen to...but I can see why it's divided opinion, ...it's all subjective, I just happen to like the different faces hardcore has
...but it's not Hardcore...it's a totally different genre.
Of course it's Hardcore, it's just a subgenre within Hardcore.
I totally agree with Chris Core, Breeze has made things interesting in Hardcore instead of doing the same old thing.
He's like f##k this. I'm going to try something different and stop being a clone that makes Hard Trance style strings and Cheesy Vocals at 170 bpm like almost every new producer trying to emulate a dated sound.
New prodution techniques is what the scene needs, that's how great genres like freeform started. From people with new ideas instead of putting out the same old shite.
It would've been one thing if he subtle or added stuff to the tracks. Not re-invintening the wheel in one go.
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DJ Hellfury
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Posted - 2013/02/15 : 12:10:22
Raffery, with that logic of yours i could say oceanlab is hardcore too because i can mix some tracks on 170+bpm with breeze and styles ones :\ even when a hard kick is missing e.g
maybe we are all overeacting like other guys in the past when trance hit the scene and that "sub genre" is just another firestarter for an new era but its just too much dnb and drumstep influenced atm. Its not well made for my liking.
I guess it will need another decade to form these ideas in decent tracks; it shouldnt sound like copies from far more popular artists from other genres
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rafferty
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Posted - 2013/02/15 : 12:16:25
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Originally posted by Audio Warfare:
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Originally posted by rafferty:
I beg to differ, it's the same speed as Hardcore and can be mixed with Hardcore so it is Hardcore!!!. Hardcore has very few rules with the types of sounds you can use in a track.
Does that mean DnB is Hardcore too? ;)
Personally I like the stuff so it isn't a problem for me. I wouldn't play a full set myself but a few tracks mixed through some riffy stuff helps break things up and add some variety. Fair play to Breeze and crew for sticking to their guns and doing what they want, I respect that a lot. At the same time people are welcome to their opinions and should freely be able to voice their dislike on this sort of site.
Well drum n bass is kinda a Hardcore sub genre and played on Hardcore Underground cds. Used to be actually called Hardcore pre 94 before the scene fragmented:)
Your right man. Just annoys me though how people say it's not Hardcore because it doesn't follows the rules of what their narrow minds believe is Hardcore. Hardcore follows very few rules in how it should sound, one of the reasons it's had such a long life span.
I bet if bouncy techno hardcore or gabber was a new genre that came out this year they'd all be saying oh it's not trancey and cheesy so it's not Hardcore. They just can't understand the concept of experimentation in music and trying something new.
Breeze has probably been making hardcore music before they were even born and here they are trying to tell him his music is not hardcore lol Is like some kid on a pushbike trying to tell a professional motorcycle rider how to ride his race.
I guess we'll all just have to agree to disagree:)
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Spyanova
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Posted - 2013/02/15 : 13:14:36
Yeah ok.
Drum & Bass is just a subgenre of Hardcore.
Breeze >>>>> High Contrast
MOB >>>>> Roni Size
DJ Hixxy >>>>> DJ Fresh
Hardcore Breaks wasn't Hardcore. The bouncy Hardcore we know came after Breaks, so if anything, Hardcore is more a distant subgenre of Drum & Bass. Stop talking crap now, please.
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2013/02/15 : 13:15:29
Actually DnB has never really been a part of Hardcore. It was all just called Hardcore or Rave back then but DnB didn't actually exist. It then split into Happy Hardcore and Jungle/DnB but they went their own ways really.
I'm sure the HU crew would argue that what's on their albums is BBHC but TBH it is a fine line, I'll give you that.
I do agree that Electrocore/Dubcore whatever is Hardcore so I agree with you to an extent. Drumstep is a merging of DnB and Dubstep though so utterly unrelated IMO. Not that I have a problem with the guys doing it, it's all good. I enjoy any Rave music really.
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