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95_was_the_time
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 Posted - 2005/10/02 : 14:17:34
this new front-livingroom friendly teenybopper stuff is still 'hardcore'?
raverbaby move to one side please. does anyone here remember hardcore in 1995 when the sound was HARDcore? the new kick drums are pish (I'm sorry!) and you average Styles track consists of one kick drum, offstab bass, casio-lead synth and some shitty pop vocals.
I won't moan here too much more as this is my first post so I will cheer you up by talking about how it sounded like 1995. Where anyof you here before bonkers 1 came out? I have nothing against bonkers as I like the first 2... that raw student-bedrooms-studio DIY sound which is almost a sort of punky thing to do was the best music around. everyone was doing it and money didn't mean much.
it's not just the music it was the whole feeling of it all cause not many people knew about it, the music was raw and it wasn't really concidered townie/charver music.
feel free to rant back and tell me how amazing it is nowadays but I'm just not feeling it. - If it aint broke don't fix it - there isn't anyone doing that old sounds anymore sadly. (well apart from me, but a little person like me isn't going to change the scene this istant no matter how hard I try!)
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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 14:32:27
We were there from the begining.
What you say is true but, and I think it's a Taoist saying,
'There's Nothing So Constant As Change'.
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UKr4veR
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 15:13:59
I'm sick of all the Trance bollocks myself
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bristolboy05
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 15:20:42
old skool is bangin, that is wot got me into hardcore but the only thing is that it is to slow compared 2 the new stuff. **** me ardcore gets ur blood rushing through ur veains at 100mph.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 15:24:22
My thoughts on this subject would normally be enough to fill a full page but it's sunday and i've just got back from church, so....
Firstly, welcome to the site.
Do you realise how patronising you sounded there? I think you'll find there are a lot of people here who were around for the birth of Hardcore - and if they weren't, would that make their opinions any less valid?
Also, you seem to be basing your opinion totally on the Raverbaby sound of Hardcore - i assume you are aware that there's a lot more to the current scene than a load of weak trance rips and remixes? There is an immense amount of variety in the scene these days - a LOT more than in '95
And being popular isn't such a bad thing is it? Hardcore is still relatively small compared to most other dance music genres so i wouldn't start raising the white flag to commercialism just yet!
Could talk about this all day so please feel free to 'moan' some more.
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Fishy
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 16:07:34
I agree with 95_was_the_time
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Mortis
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 16:33:02
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
My thoughts on this subject would normally be enough to fill a full page but it's sunday and i've just got back from church, so....
Firstly, welcome to the site.
Do you realise how patronising you sounded there? I think you'll find there are a lot of people here who were around for the birth of Hardcore - and if they weren't, would that make their opinions any less valid?
Also, you seem to be basing your opinion totally on the Raverbaby sound of Hardcore - i assume you are aware that there's a lot more to the current scene than a load of weak trance rips and remixes? There is an immense amount of variety in the scene these days - a LOT more than in '95
And being popular isn't such a bad thing is it? Hardcore is still relatively small compared to most other dance music genres so i wouldn't start raising the white flag to commercialism just yet!
Could talk about this all day so please feel free to 'moan' some more.
Well said.
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Xenochrome
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 Posted - 2005/10/02 : 16:55:00
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
There is an immense amount of variety in the scene these days - a LOT more than in '95
Which is why the music is still alive.
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Evel
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 17:31:41
Welcome 95_was_the_time, I agree with you, 94, 95, 96, i was a kid then but liked some chart dance music (better than todays dance stuff) but have heard loads of old skool and the 4?4 kick drum is amazing, each track was almost different from each one
When I listen to happy to be hardcore chapter 1 I know i'm listening to hardcore IMO Clubland extream hardcore isn't much greater than club music, styles and breeze's mix on bonkers 12 was slow and one thing I notice these days is at the beginning and end of each track there is a boring bass line and the beats sound like taps, no jungle drum/ breakbeat and I found that alot of the long term producers seem to copy each other with this.
There are some great new hardcore, some with kick drum beats but very very few, some 'new' techno but with out the classic beats. I am finding myself skipping past soem tracks on some new albums thinking "what is wrong with the music from 10 years ago?" sure times move on but it dosn't mean we can't look back. Just my opinons though so i'm sure other ravers might like the new styles more?
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jenks
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 17:52:13
quote:
Originally posted by Evel:
There are some great new hardcore, some with kick drum beats but very very few,
I think you're confused ;)
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Evel
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 20:21:34
quote:
Originally posted by jenks:
quote:
Originally posted by Evel:
There are some great new hardcore, some with kick drum beats but very very few,
I think you're confused ;)
I what way would i be confused? ;-)
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jenks
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 21:48:28
I thought maybe when you said 'kick drum' you were thinking of something else, because there is definitly not a shortage of kick drum lead hardcore tracks...
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clarke101
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 00:46:32
quote:
Originally posted by Evel:
quote:
Originally posted by jenks:
quote:
Originally posted by Evel:
There are some great new hardcore, some with kick drum beats but very very few,
I think you're confused ;)
I what way would i be confused? ;-)
Because most Hardcore atm is 4/4 kick led .
Or are you saying that you dont like most of the current 4/4 stuff?
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zelachang
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 01:10:49
you know what? the world is going downhill. People nowadays are mean, uncreative, selfish hacks. Things were so much better 50 years ago, you know cause old things are pure and holy. There are no new artists, there is nothing new being created because everything is based off of something that happened 50 years ago. Why dont we just kill everyone and try to make a new world order based on how it was 50 years ago? Because you know, what is good is such an objective thing.
I think this deserves being quoted again:
'There is Nothing So Constant As Change'
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ryg0r
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 06:18:41
quote:
Originally posted by zelachang:
you know what? the world is going downhill. People nowadays are mean, uncreative, selfish hacks.
Gold!
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dr0p_dead_fred
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Posted - 2005/10/03 : 06:53:05
screw that hardcore was better in 1963 when hixxy was still in his diapers goin to a fancy daycare
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