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Rayovac
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 Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:06:05
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Commercialization is a horrible bastard that's soaking up any hardcore it can get it's hands on. Argh it's just plain sad.
I'm still pretty depressed that AATW had swallowed up Bonkers....
to be fair tho hardcore has been commercial for quite some time now.
Yeah. I'm fine with some forms of commercial hardcore and I'm glad the core is getting some recognition it deserves but it's just ****ing up more than I'd like. The amount of rather shitty commercialcore lately is huge (commercialcore = VEC beats, beaten-to-death synths, vocals). I'm also seeing less and less hardcore that's doesn't sound like sped-up trance.
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:08:51
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AATW, main audience is like 16 and below anyway ?
exactly.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:11:18
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AATW, main audience is like 16 and below anyway ?
possibly, but i dont believe theres any solid demographic evidence of that. and there are half naked women on the front of these things so they probably dont AIM it at that segemnt of the market.
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:12:42
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Originally posted by Rayovac:
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
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Originally posted by Rayovac:
Commercialization is a horrible bastard that's soaking up any hardcore it can get it's hands on. Argh it's just plain sad.
I'm still pretty depressed that AATW had swallowed up Bonkers....
to be fair tho hardcore has been commercial for quite some time now.
Yeah. I'm fine with some forms of commercial hardcore and I'm glad the core is getting some recognition it deserves but it's just ****ing up more than I'd like. The amount of rather shitty commercialcore lately is huge (commercialcore = VEC beats, beaten-to-death synths, vocals). I'm also seeing less and less hardcore that's doesn't sound like sped-up trance.
i stopped listening to UK hardcore in 1999 as i find it too much like trance & scouse house.
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:13:30
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Mental_Adam:
AATW, main audience is like 16 and below anyway ?
possibly, but i dont believe theres any solid demographic evidence of that. and there are half naked women on the front of these things so they probably dont AIM it at that segemnt of the market.
Not very in touch with kids at the age of 16 are you?
Half naked girls, right in that market.
This thing is in the norm now with people in that age range, and I don't see it stopping. I just hope good 'core keeps getting produced.
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:13:31
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I thought originally the rumour that AATW had taken over the Bonkers series was just a joke.
AATW used to be ok, especially when I was much younger and they were releasing mainstream dance music, but as I got older my music tastes matured and I hate the direction the whole Clubland scene has gone. I must admit I used to buy the Clubland albums, back then the first 3 or 4 were actually really good, but after No.6 I stopped buying it as the direction the commercial dance scene was heading just didn't appeal to me.
I am unsure about the next Bonkers 18 and how AATW will influence it. There may not be such a radical watering down of Hardcore music as most of us would imagine there to be, Hixxy, Styles, Breeze, Squad E and Re-Con have already contributed enough CD Mixes with HTID and CXTreme 5 and surely Bonkers will continue to promote the freeform, bouncy and gabber sounds.
no joke.
unfortunately in the world of retail and business, theres a thing called brand loyalty. people will stay loyal to what they know, rather then invest in something thats new and might not be what they know or like. bonkers will be new to many people after its 2 year break. that will hinder sales so clubland may have to get it back on track using hixxy and darren style (the bigest names in hardcore) rather than sharkey and scott brown. also, they'd have to turn it into similar music as CXtreme in order to suit as many peoples tastes as possible..
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:15:04
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Mental_Adam:
AATW, main audience is like 16 and below anyway ?
possibly, but i dont believe theres any solid demographic evidence of that. and there are half naked women on the front of these things so they probably dont AIM it at that segemnt of the market.
YEAH BECAUSE IT SELLS.
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:16:50
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Originally posted by Mental_Adam:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Mental_Adam:
AATW, main audience is like 16 and below anyway ?
possibly, but i dont believe theres any solid demographic evidence of that. and there are half naked women on the front of these things so they probably dont AIM it at that segemnt of the market.
YEAH BECAUSE IT SELLS.
and thats why bonkers will struggle if they stay the same. god help bonkers if it does stay the same. i hope it stays the same but it wont sell if it does..
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:17:34
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Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Mental_Adam:
AATW, main audience is like 16 and below anyway ?
possibly, but i dont believe theres any solid demographic evidence of that. and there are half naked women on the front of these things so they probably dont AIM it at that segemnt of the market.
Not very in touch with kids at the age of 16 are you?
Half naked girls, right in that market.
This thing is in the norm now with people in that age range, and I don't see it stopping.
true very true indeed.
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:18:47
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Mental_Adam:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
[quote]Originally posted by Mental_Adam:
AATW, main audience is like 16 and below anyway ?
possibly, but i dont believe theres any solid demographic evidence of that. and there are half naked women on the front of these things so they probably dont AIM it at that segemnt of the market.
YEAH BECAUSE IT SELLS.
& thats all that AATW are interested in money.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:19:54
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Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Mental_Adam:
AATW, main audience is like 16 and below anyway ?
possibly, but i dont believe theres any solid demographic evidence of that. and there are half naked women on the front of these things so they probably dont AIM it at that segemnt of the market.
Not very in touch with kids at the age of 16 are you?
Half naked girls, right in that market.
This thing is in the norm now with people in that age range, and I don't see it stopping. I just hope good 'core keeps getting produced.
i am in the norm. im only 18 myself.
it appeals to people that age but whether AATW aims to attract people below 16 is another matter.
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:22:13
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Mental_Adam:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
[quote]Originally posted by Mental_Adam:
AATW, main audience is like 16 and below anyway ?
possibly, but i dont believe theres any solid demographic evidence of that. and there are half naked women on the front of these things so they probably dont AIM it at that segemnt of the market.
YEAH BECAUSE IT SELLS.
& thats all that AATW are interested in money.
and thats how hardcore will slowly die. hardcore doesnt have a big enough fanbase to maintain a big enough revenue for All Around The World so they're propbably forced to resort to hard dance and commercial remixes like cascada and basshunter
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:26:28
Exactly, They don't give two shits about the genre and they don't care about you! ... just money making. End off. I'm done
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:32:51
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Exactly, They don't give two shits about the genre and they don't care about you! ... just money making. End off. I'm done
If only good 'core made the world go 'round.
And not money.
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Posted - 2008/12/11 : 00:33:09
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Exactly, They don't give two shits about the genre and they don't care about you! ... just money making. End off. I'm done
that appears to be th trend. but what about the hardcore we love?
is it diminishing?
will there be artists producing to keep it alive?
with AATW monopolising this shack, how will they be funded?
makes you wonder what it'll be like in, say, 10 years time.
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