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djDMS
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Posted - 2017/04/08 :  21:25:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djDMS's homepage  Reply with quote
I'd like to say that if anyone can, Ham can.

But nothing would surprise me these days.


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Sulphurik
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Posted - 2017/04/23 :  14:19:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sulphurik's homepage  Reply with quote
Brisk & Ham - You are the one. Don't see this available anywhere, I presume this wasn't released. It's on Next Gen Podcast 31.

Found this, sounds good. Don't see free d/l link.
https://soundcloud.com/dj-pursuit/dj-brisk-make-it-rough-pursuits-ruffer-remix


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Edited by - Sulphurik on 2017/04/23 14:24:26
Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2017/04/23 :  14:51:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Found this, sounds good. Don't see free d/l link.
https://soundcloud.com/dj-pursuit/dj-brisk-make-it-rough-pursuits-ruffer-remix



It was an entry for the Kniteforce competition. Mine was a runner up and will be available on KFA soon!


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Edited by - Captain Triceps on 2017/04/23 14:53:16
Sulphurik
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Posted - 2017/04/23 :  14:56:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sulphurik's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
quote:
Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Found this, sounds good. Don't see free d/l link.
https://soundcloud.com/dj-pursuit/dj-brisk-make-it-rough-pursuits-ruffer-remix



It was an entry for the Kniteforce competition. Mine was a runner up and will be available on KFA soon!



Nice one, what's your track?


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latininxtc
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Posted - 2017/04/23 :  15:56:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
He's a much better producer than he is a speaker, that's for sure.



Pretty believable given that Brisk nicknames him Mumbleton Dean in one of the Next Gen podcasts. Ham even was the cohost one time and yea, definitely not much of a talker.


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MC Deecee
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Posted - 2017/04/23 :  17:59:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MC Deecee's homepage  Reply with quote
I'm actually shocked that anybody, let alone multiple people were stupid brave enough to part with 100 notes a head for an album, its one hell of a gamble, especially as he hasnt had anything to do with hardcore for what, a decade? the whole concept behind this seems absolutely ridiculous, in my opinion anyway.

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djDMS
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Posted - 2017/04/23 :  19:23:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djDMS's homepage  Reply with quote
....yet he easily found 100+ people willing to back I.

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Impulse_Response
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Posted - 2017/04/23 :  19:32:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Impulse_Response's homepage  Reply with quote
I hope someone makes a mix with every song so I and the other few billion people who didn't back the project are able to hear them.

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Elliott
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Posted - 2017/04/23 :  22:21:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elliott's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by MC Deecee:
I'm actually shocked that anybody, let alone multiple people were stupid brave enough to part with 100 notes a head for an album, its one hell of a gamble, especially as he hasnt had anything to do with hardcore for what, a decade? the whole concept behind this seems absolutely ridiculous, in my opinion anyway.


Most of us organised into small groups and ended up paying more like ?25 each. For personal reasons, I struggled to get the money together but it's Ham - one of the greatest and most underrated hardcore producers of all time - so I had to.

It's a sign of how great and consistent Ham was that so many people were willing to jump on the project -- myself included, when usually I'd sack this off. Not many people could bounce back from a 6 year hiatus and immediately start commanding this kind of money for an album.

Anyway, he was criticised by some on here at the time. I actually defended him. Since he went into drum & bass, he's worth a hell of a lot more than he ever was in hardcore. Even with the high price, he's probably taking a significant pay cut to make this album.

Ham's always been a top 5 producer for me and, although it's been a while, his last set of releases before he left the scene were actually some of his best imo. I don't regret my decision at all and I'm as sure as I could be about any hardcore producer that he won't let us down. He'll know he has to produce an album of tracks that sound exactly like what people expect from him and if it comes out that way, it's going to be a stomper.

The only thing that'll really piss me off is if it leaks. Even at ?25, you do expect some kind of exclusivity -- let alone if you paid full price.


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Edited by - Elliott on 2017/04/23 22:39:52
Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2017/04/23 :  22:52:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sulphurik:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
quote:
Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Found this, sounds good. Don't see free d/l link.
https://soundcloud.com/dj-pursuit/dj-brisk-make-it-rough-pursuits-ruffer-remix



It was an entry for the Kniteforce competition. Mine was a runner up and will be available on KFA soon!



Nice one, what's your track?




I did a remix of the same track, plus a remix of Jimmy J & Cru-L-T - Can't You See - I will point out they are both 90s breakbeat hardcore style, not modern UK hardcore.
When I can post a snippet I will - I hope you will like it :)


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https://soundcloud.com/bradders-tracks-and-remix
https://soundcloud.com/bradders1982
https://soundcloud.com/paulbradley1982


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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2017/04/23 :  23:02:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by MC Deecee:
I'm actually shocked that anybody, let alone multiple people were stupid brave enough to part with 100 notes a head for an album, its one hell of a gamble, especially as he hasnt had anything to do with hardcore for what, a decade? the whole concept behind this seems absolutely ridiculous, in my opinion anyway.



To echo Elliott's comment, most of us grouped together to pay a smaller amount - not only did Ham unofficially give the green light for that arrangement, I'd be surprised if he hadn't expected it - he gets his ten large and we get our music.
The very fact that he could set this up and for it to pay off is testament to the esteem he still holds, even after all these years. You can see from his interviews and updates that he still has much love for the hardcore sound - sadly it just doesn't pay the bills.


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https://soundcloud.com/bradders-tracks-and-remix
https://soundcloud.com/bradders1982
https://soundcloud.com/paulbradley1982


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arpz
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Posted - 2017/04/23 :  23:42:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit arpz's homepage  Reply with quote
I'm in for the full 100, I wanted this thing and it didn't seem like a unreasonable price all things considered. Slightly pained me to see people clubbing together but if it prevents a full blown leak by some miracle then it's still a winner. I have faith that the music will be absolute quality

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Samination
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Posted - 2017/04/24 :  04:16:35  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
The only complaint I have is that it seems like he tried to evade any kind of costs here. Why didnt he do a crowdfund?

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arpz
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Posted - 2017/04/24 :  05:44:06  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit arpz's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
The only complaint I have is that it seems like he tried to evade any kind of costs here. Why didnt he do a crowdfund?



Presumably decided that if he could find enough people off his own back that he wouldn't need to give money to a company that had no real involvement other than facilitating it. He hasn't 'tried' to evade any cost, he has evaded it, why not?


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Cyrax
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Posted - 2017/04/24 :  10:19:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Cyrax's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by MC Deecee:
I'm actually shocked that anybody, let alone multiple people were stupid brave enough to part with 100 notes a head for an album, its one hell of a gamble, especially as he hasnt had anything to do with hardcore for what, a decade? the whole concept behind this seems absolutely ridiculous, in my opinion anyway.



It's all proportionate to how much you value a product/service, because I'm making shed loads from Freeform I usually spend 100 quid down the pub over the weekend, so in this case it's best to put it into new music projects.


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