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Vladel
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Posted - 2017/05/12 : 17:56:16
They are won't have the same impact as the great majority of people will never own let alone hear them.
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Samination
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Posted - 2017/05/12 : 18:35:34
Fuk Ham, he's had his run. I rather see Stargazer (not cubehard) or frantic do a 100 quid bidding
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Mickey Init
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Posted - 2017/05/12 : 23:05:26
quote: Originally posted by Vladel:
I wanted it to be terrible
What's happened to the world? People have become so narrow-minded and self-absorbed.
Although, it does seem like sour grapes to me 🍇
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Vladel
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Posted - 2017/05/13 : 08:07:43
quote: Originally posted by Mickey Init:
quote: Originally posted by Vladel:
I wanted it to be terrible
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What's happened to the world? People have become so narrow-minded and self-absorbed.
Although, it does seem like sour grapes to me 🍇
I could afford it no problem but I am fundamentally against the model of making a small scene pay through the nose on a blind promise and I don't want the model to spread. Furthermore I am obviously going to want it to be terrible because if I have chosen to miss out on something that is impossible to be a part of once complete, it's just human nature to hope you haven't missed out on anything good.
The worse it is, the better the chance it may never happen again. If you have payed for this, you have effectively contributed to the eventual death of the scene should this model spread.
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skarr
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Posted - 2017/05/13 : 09:06:44
It's a ****in SHIT album and anyone that says any different is just lying to themselves and is just trying to justify spending ?100 on a bunch of generic vocal samples over a bunch of generic tracks and then that track being called whatever the vocal sample is.
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skarr
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Posted - 2017/05/13 : 09:09:09
You could tell by the names of the tracks it was going to be shit.
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skarr
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Posted - 2017/05/13 : 09:12:57
quote: Originally posted by Elipton:
Got to remember, chaps, that Ham is widely identified as one of the pioneers of Hardcore. His sound had always been at the front of Hardcore development and I think a different sound to his past is to be respected.
Shut the **** up you absolute prick.
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skarr
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Posted - 2017/05/13 : 09:16:37
You could tell by the names of the tracks exactly what was gonna happen in each track.
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skarr
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Posted - 2017/05/13 : 09:20:51
'Bounce 2 dis beat ' 'yeah yeah yeah ' 'let's get this thing started ' , I mean come on people, have a word with yourselves seriously.
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Cyrax
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Posted - 2017/05/13 : 09:52:33
quote: Originally posted by skarr:
'Bounce 2 dis beat ' 'yeah yeah yeah ' 'let's get this thing started ' , I mean come on people, have a word with yourselves seriously.
Just take it easy, Champ,
Why don't you stop talking for a while?
Maybe sit the next couple of plays out.
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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2017/05/13 : 10:52:40
quote: Originally posted by skarr:
It's a ****in SHIT album and anyone that says any different is just lying to themselves and is just trying to justify spending ?100 on a bunch of generic vocal samples over a bunch of generic tracks and then that track being called whatever the vocal sample is.
This also works:
It's a ****ing GREAT album and anyone that says any different is just jealous they didn't sign up and is just trying to justify not spending ?25 on a bunch of class tracks, which are miles better than any other shite being produced in hardcore at the moment.
Isn't it funny how the most boring negative arseholes on this forum are the ones that are so annoyed by it.
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ViolonC
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Posted - 2017/05/13 : 11:07:31
The Ham Album is probably a very good product because
a) you payed 100 squid for just a few tracks. Would be a real shame if you don't like them, wouldn't it? As an old Ham fan you are though likely to appreciate the style what makes it easier.
b) you didn't pay 100 squid and now you aren't part of the 'cool kids club'. As you can't have it anyway what#s the point in liking it and if you don't like it why even have it? But there will be some mixes, right? In case you actually do like it?
I had a listen to arpz mix and wasn't blown away (maybe because of reason b) ) but it wasn't bad either. It is a little sad that the album won't be much of relevance unless key artists get inspired by the music, that though sounds dated (like Hixxys first tracks when he picked up producing again last year). But time will tell.
At the end a lot of people that picked the album up will be satisfied, certainly also because of reason a). :D
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Thumpa
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Posted - 2017/05/13 : 11:56:26
I liked it, I've liked his music for over 21 years so always enjoy it. I didn't think it was generic either, and I hate generic hardcore music.
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Samination
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Posted - 2017/05/13 : 12:10:22
quote: Originally posted by Elipton:
Got to remember, chaps, that Ham is widely identified as one of the pioneers of Hardcore. His sound had always been at the front of Hardcore development and I think a different sound to his past is to be respected. If you ask me, there's a decent range in those clips, from breakbeat Hardcore to upfront modern tunes.
This statement kinda reminds me of when DNA got loads of slack (not Dean).
Can someone please link me something that DNA supposedly pioneered and was in the forefront off, and got crap for?
And as much as I dislike to say it, none of them (Ham and DNA) pioneered much, unless pioneering means going the wrong way the Scene wants and grows.
The Scene dropped jungle for Happy Hardcore. The Scene dropped Happy Hardcore for Upfront/UK Hardcore. And as much as I hate to agree on this, but the Scene dropped UK Hardcore for Electro/drumstep-minimalistic-drops and then for Gammer-happy-revival. The Scene grows (outside the UK) and the infighting grows, since no one is accepting that Twatstorm and Gummer are winning.
Oh god, I'm sounding like Warnman now, and I've barely been into the music scene as long as most others...
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skarr
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Posted - 2017/05/13 : 12:18:34
quote: Originally posted by Thumpa:
I liked it, I've liked his music for over 21 years so always enjoy it. I didn't think it was generic either, and I hate generic hardcore music.
Oh right well if you've said it's not generic then it's not generic.
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