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Archefluxx
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 Posted - 2011/11/27 : 13:00:34
I think most of them have been released on the weekend around the 6th of December. However last year if I remember correctly, it was released on the 27th after Christmas.
There was avid discussion why on the boards, as it missed a pretty big opportunity for sales at Christmas.
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Posted - 2011/12/02 : 19:47:05
Release date: 16th of January 2012
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DeezeNuts
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Posted - 2011/12/03 : 00:52:01
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Everyone on here has short memories! They have always been released the first week of December apart from the last one! They changed it last year to get a better chart position which was acheived. I'm looking forward to it as I thought last years was a good album compared to the previous few!
This. I thought CXH 7 was WAY better than 2-6. Definetely a step in the right direction.
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deathproof627
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Posted - 2011/12/03 : 01:19:50
"Clubland Xtreme Hardcore 8 Release date ... 16th Jan 2012 .." From Breezes Facebook
I honestly dont understand why they dont release it right before the holidays seems like a better way to make money
EDIT:Apparently the 3rd cd is called HTID but i honestly wonder what the difference is going to be compared to his other mixes. I guess it will be only Hixxy's and Recon's tracks instead of just Hixxy's.
"3 CD's ... 1 Darren Styles,2 Breeze on CD3 Hixxy joins forces with Recon to bring you .. 'Hardcore Till I Die'.... "-Breeze
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2011/12/03 : 01:55:11
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Originally posted by deathproof627:
"Clubland Xtreme Hardcore 8 Release date ... 16th Jan 2012 .." From Breezes Facebook
I honestly dont understand why they dont release it right before the holidays seems like a better way to make money
EDIT:Apparently the 3rd cd is called HTID but i honestly wonder what the difference is going to be compared to his other mixes. I guess it will be only Hixxy's and Recon's tracks instead of just Hixxy's.
"3 CD's ... 1 Darren Styles,2 Breeze on CD3 Hixxy joins forces with Recon to bring you .. 'Hardcore Till I Die'.... "-Breeze
Ahh that makes more sense, apparently this one is gonna have loads of 'fresh' music, which should be interesting I guess. I hope that means something fresh, I listen to all the clubland albums even though I don't like the series and all I hear is electro noises and dubstep drops. I prefered it when it was cascada remixes and stuff, I know a lot of people don't like that sound but I'm a fan of the vocal cheese even if it's throwaway dance records, it puts a smile on your face and makes you dance.
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Archefluxx
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Posted - 2011/12/03 : 02:00:57
If I knew 2 years ago the recycling of franchise and cascada scooter remixes were going to be replaced by minimal filth, I wouldnt have moaned as much
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2011/12/03 : 02:34:03
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Originally posted by Archefluxx:
If I knew 2 years ago the recycling of franchise and cascada scooter remixes were going to be replaced by minimal filth, I wouldnt have moaned as much
I think that kind of handz in the air type music is suited to happy hardcore. I remember it used to be known as 'McTrance' all the cheapy cheesy trance numbers that were big in clubs in the late 90s here. At the end of the day I can't diss Clubland too much, I think it's a bad example of Hardcore music and people need to stop imitating it but at the end of the day it's a Clubland CD, not a few DJ's artist albums so it has to reflect modern club music in a way the Clubland brand deems is suitable to put it's name on, we're never gonna hear anything too underground on it. Unfortunately filth and minimal is popular in the clubs so it's gonna be all over the Clubland Hardcore CDs from now on until it changes to something else.
People often have a problem with 'Clubland has ruined hardcore' I think the real problem is that you've let Clubland dictate your scene. Clubland is a big company with its fingers in many pies, one of them is hardcore; aside from the fact it gets enough sales and comeback to make a profit out of, that's all it cares about. It doesn't care what's going on in hardcore, it's our job as the fans and ravers who become producers and DJs is to make something of Hardcore instead of criticizing what a faceless company does in our scene. I support Hardcore Underground so much because it's one of the biggest and most important DJ and Producer-led Hardcore projects we have out there, there are loads of them emerging now...we just need more and more and more.
We need to just spread ourselves and make ourselves bigger by doing something productive with hardcore, we need to think less about who is our competition or rival and instead look out for each other and try and push one another in the directions we all wanna go, every label, DJ and producer wants a fanbase and I believe there is a potential fanbase for every label, DJ and producer so we may as well push each other as far as we can and get our own sounds out to as many people in the world as possible just by thinking of each other, getting them connected and giving a helping can where you can spare one.
Maybe that sounds a bit idealist but really what is stopping us from doing that? I know I went vastly off topic but I see this argument come up everytime clubland is mentioned somewhere, be it ush, facebook, twitter or here, this wasn't aimed at you Olly, just a kind of thing I feel everyone in the scene should start realising. We gain nothing collectively from holding each other down, bitching with one another and being selfish. Hardcore is still very small, we have the chance to turn it into something big, amazing and something we can be really proud of instead of looking back with bitterness, so we might as well do it.
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deathproof627
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Posted - 2011/12/03 : 02:40:19
i was reading through Breezes posts last night and some guy told him that he didn't want any electro/dubstep influenced stuff any Breeze responded by saying that this new influence is how hardcore is progressing and how this is what modern hardcore is. If u dont like it then piss off to 2003.
Sources:Breezes facebook, My paraphrasing
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2011/12/03 : 02:59:28
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Originally posted by deathproof627:
i was reading through Breezes posts last night and some guy told him that he didn't want any electro/dubstep influenced stuff any Breeze responded by saying that this new influence is how hardcore is progressing and how this is what modern hardcore is. If u dont like it then piss off to 2003.
Sources:Breezes facebook, My paraphrasing
Yeah just read through what he said, personally my biggest criticism of the dubstepy electro hardcore is just that I think it's bad music in all honesty. I don't like it so I don't listen to it, there's a lot of bad music out there, I don't listen to that either. Clubland dominates the scene because nothing else does at the moment, so the events here are dominated by dubsteppy clubland hardcore. I don't go upfront hardcore raving anymore because I know that's what I'm gonna hear. Thanks to any promoters supporting other styles of hardcore I now have increasingly more places to rave at.
Breeze just tells people to do better if they don't like it, he is right basically, I personally don't see the point in telling a bunch of random ravers who don't want to make music that but either way I think potential producers and DJs should see it and take it as a kick in the arse to do something with the music; there are people out there who don't like clubland and want different hardcore, so let's give them it. I see so many moaners on ush who have a real strong passion for old skool happy hardcore who spend their days moaning about clubland on there, I wish they'd get in the studio because I know passion for music makes good music and I know I'd probably love the music they make.
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LoveThaCore
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Posted - 2011/12/03 : 04:20:29
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Originally posted by deathproof627:
i was reading through Breezes posts last night and some guy told him that he didn't want any electro/dubstep influenced stuff any Breeze responded by saying that this new influence is how hardcore is progressing and how this is what modern hardcore is. If u dont like it then piss off to 2003.
Sources:Breezes facebook, My paraphrasing
I totally agree with what Breeze said. He should be commended for trying something different. Everyone whinges Hardcore sounds the same and now it's changing and people still farkin moan lol. Like he said, go back to 2003 if all you want to listen to only Trance Hardcore.
I think the more variety in Hardcore the better, Breakbeat Hardcore, Electro/dubstep Hardcore, Trance Hardcore is all still being made to keep different tastes happy.
So stop complaining because someone is moving with the times and has the balls to do something different. Half the people that complain probably hav'nt produced a track in their life. Why not make your own Hardcore instead of constantly slating people that have given their life to hardcore. Breeze was one of the few djs that stuck with the hardcore scene when many were leaving in 2000. Just remember that. He deserves more respect than that!!
Personally I think freeform is terrible and is one of the reasons I buy HTID and CLubland Extreme. Because you don't get freeform on Clubland Hardcore CDs. But each to their own. If you like it buy it, if you don't then don't.
They all have their place in adding something to the scene.
Hardcore Underground - A variety of the Underground tastes.
HTID, Exteme Hardcore - More the current big names sound.
Hardcore Addiction - Giving up and comming produces exposure.
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Posted - 2011/12/03 : 04:26:25
Also if Dubstep/Electro hardcore is so hated, why are these tracks consistantly number one on trackitdown hardcore charts. Must be a lot of people that do like it too:)
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2011/12/03 : 04:42:28
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Also if Dubstep/Electro hardcore is so hated, why are these tracks consistantly number one on trackitdown hardcore charts. Must be a lot of people that do like it too:)
To be fair anything in reasonable demand is on TID charts. I think it's wrong to label dubstep/electro music as the 'future' of hardcore. It may be the current trend, but by no means is it the future. That applies to electronic music as a whole, taking away melodies, vocals and all the other things that make a song a song and replacing them with what is basically technology abuse is not progression, it's regression. That's why I have no respect for those styles, they're nothing more than a moneymaker for the scene; not representative of the music itself. You can like it or hate it, that's just how it is. I think it's nice Breeze is doing something commercial for the scene, we need that, however it wouldn't kill to throw some tracks out for the real ravers who have stuck with the music for just as long, instead of telling them what is essentially 'My tastes are changing, so should yours.'
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Posted - 2011/12/03 : 10:02:36
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by LoveThaCore:
Also if Dubstep/Electro hardcore is so hated, why are these tracks consistantly number one on trackitdown hardcore charts. Must be a lot of people that do like it too:)
To be fair anything in reasonable demand is on TID charts. I think it's wrong to label dubstep/electro music as the 'future' of hardcore. It may be the current trend, but by no means is it the future. That applies to electronic music as a whole, taking away melodies, vocals and all the other things that make a song a song and replacing them with what is basically technology abuse is not progression, it's regression. That's why I have no respect for those styles, they're nothing more than a moneymaker for the scene; not representative of the music itself. You can like it or hate it, that's just how it is. I think it's nice Breeze is doing something commercial for the scene, we need that, however it wouldn't kill to throw some tracks out for the real ravers who have stuck with the music for just as long, instead of telling them what is essentially 'My tastes are changing, so should yours.'
I don't think they are just a money maker for the scene. They are just another angle hardcore is taking. Breeze is just saying this is a new sound I'm trying with hardcore, some will like it some won't.
When the trance scene was massive in 2000, plenty of hardcore produces started making hardcore that sounded like trance. That could be called a money maker too. They saw a sound that was getting mainstream popularity and copied it. Music has to be evolve in different directions otherwise people get bored. Like if dance music producers did'nt evolve, we'd probably all still be liking disco.
I remember when trance was fist introduced to uk hardcore in 98/99 it was hated too, but it grew on people and eventually became the norm with the next generation of ravers.
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Posted - 2011/12/03 : 13:56:29
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Originally posted by LoveThaCore:
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Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
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Originally posted by LoveThaCore:
Also if Dubstep/Electro hardcore is so hated, why are these tracks consistantly number one on trackitdown hardcore charts. Must be a lot of people that do like it too:)
To be fair anything in reasonable demand is on TID charts. I think it's wrong to label dubstep/electro music as the 'future' of hardcore. It may be the current trend, but by no means is it the future. That applies to electronic music as a whole, taking away melodies, vocals and all the other things that make a song a song and replacing them with what is basically technology abuse is not progression, it's regression. That's why I have no respect for those styles, they're nothing more than a moneymaker for the scene; not representative of the music itself. You can like it or hate it, that's just how it is. I think it's nice Breeze is doing something commercial for the scene, we need that, however it wouldn't kill to throw some tracks out for the real ravers who have stuck with the music for just as long, instead of telling them what is essentially 'My tastes are changing, so should yours.'
I don't think they are just a money maker for the scene. They are just another angle hardcore is taking. Breeze is just saying this is a new sound I'm trying with hardcore, some will like it some won't.
When the trance scene was massive in 2000, plenty of hardcore produces started making hardcore that sounded like trance. That could be called a money maker too. They saw a sound that was getting mainstream popularity and copied it. Music has to be evolve in different directions otherwise people get bored. Like if dance music producers did'nt evolve, we'd probably all still be liking disco.
I remember when trance was fist introduced to uk hardcore in 98/99 it was hated too, but it grew on people and eventually became the norm with the next generation of ravers.
There's a big difference between the trance sound and the filth sound - the trance sound makes it possible to still have melodic, emotional tunes with a lot of depth and substance, the electro sound replaces these components with arbitrary noises. I'm not massively keen on the trancy sound either compared to old skool happy hardcore, but I can at least see and have experienced the possibilities for making solid music with the trancy sound. Dubstep is exactly the same right now, you may love dubstep or you may hate it; that's irrelevant, but at the end of the day the music itself is bad: the entire genre is built around filthy drops, you take those away and you have nothing, that's why in 5-10 years (if you're lucky) we'll hardly remember dubstep at all, it doesn't have any musical significance in the long run, it's just a time producers messed about with technology and made a new sound; which is the reason it's a silly idea to call it the 'future of hardcore'. You're building the 'future' of a genre on a currently fashionable sound that is already starting to wane in popularity. That isn't making hardcore progress, that's just re-asserting it as 'that genre that copies whatever is popular and speeds it up' and is undoing all the hard work the good producers are doing to turn hardcore into something nobody has ever done before. THAT'S why we should take lessons from the old skool, not because we're riddled with nostalgia but because the music back then was unique and it was good.
The trancey riffs allow for melody and structure, dubstep and electrocore doesn't. Even I would have thought that the trancey riffs would be stale now but then I hear tracks like In Your Head by Nu Foundation and it just shows the level of depth possible. When is electrocore or dubsteppy hardcore ever going to be memorable? There's nothing unique or defining about it to be memorable.
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Posted - 2011/12/03 : 15:00:12
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Originally posted by deathproof627:
i was reading through Breezes posts last night and some guy told him that he didn't want any electro/dubstep influenced stuff any Breeze responded by saying that this new influence is how hardcore is progressing and how this is what modern hardcore is. If u dont like it then piss off to 2003.
Sources:Breezes facebook, My paraphrasing
Breeze acts like a fcuking prick on facebook. No idea what he's like in real life, and I have a colossal amount of respect for him, musically - but some of the stuff he comes out with, you just think "Come on mate, you must be, what, 40? And you're acting like a defensive little girl."
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