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dj eyebrows
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 Posted - 2005/01/21 : 11:00:33
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Originally posted by chestah:
for me its the only genre which takes me high with no drugs needed
the drugs and hardcore are kind of in a package together you know what i mean the hardcore is a buy one get the drugs free deal innit
im a raver not a drug addict
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slavetomysoundwave
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Posted - 2005/01/21 : 11:02:17
It's a shame that dance music is seen as e music.
I think the reason for it is because of how it all started - all the fuss over the outdoor raves and all that. This new music scene exploded, where people were going to massive outdoor raves, listening to a very different kind of music and taking a new drug that people didn't know a lot about (and at that time, most people going to raves were taking e's).
The authorities thought that this was getting out of hand, or at least thought that this was something that they didn't know a lot about and wanted to be able to control it, so acted. This of course resulted in the police shutting down raves etc etc (I'm sure you have an idea about all this!)
This in turn made for good press, so the media covered it, and linked dance music to ecstacy. You all know how the population works: hear something on the news and thats what you remember. So, from then on, that single link remains in everyones mind, and is generally seen as fact.
That doesn't work for (as mentioned) Rock and Roll. In that, some talented guy comes along, puts a lot of creativity and effort into writing songs - driven by the thought of becoming famous, becomes famous, laps up all the attention and money, then spends a fair amount of it getting wasted! They get the
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 Posted - 2005/01/21 : 11:03:25
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yours kinds of makes sense too... 
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dj eyebrows
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Posted - 2005/01/21 : 11:13:32
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Originally posted by Soxio:
I was just wondering what you all think.
Do you think Drugs like ( E's ) are widley associated with this type of music?
And what sort of empresion do you think it that link gives people who don't listen to this type of music?
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wat do u say to the raver bein a drug addict is that true about all ravers
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dj eyebrows
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Posted - 2005/01/21 : 11:23:51
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Originally posted by dj eyebrows:
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Originally posted by chestah:
for me its the only genre which takes me high with no drugs needed
the drugs and hardcore are kind of in a package together you know what i mean the hardcore is a buy one get the drugs free deal innit
im a raver not a drug addict
im a new dj and member of this site
im a raver not a drug addict
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dj eyebrows
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Posted - 2005/01/21 : 11:25:34
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Originally posted by slavetomysoundwave:
It's a shame that dance music is seen as e music.
I think the reason for it is because of how it all started - all the fuss over the outdoor raves and all that. This new music scene exploded, where people were going to massive outdoor raves, listening to a very different kind of music and taking a new drug that people didn't know a lot about (and at that time, most people going to raves were taking e's).
The authorities thought that this was getting out of hand, or at least thought that this was something that they didn't know a lot about and wanted to be able to control it, so acted. This of course resulted in the police shutting down raves etc etc (I'm sure you have an idea about all this!)
the drugs in the raves are the most annoying things in the world because im thought to be a crack head now
This in turn made for good press, so the media covered it, and linked dance music to ecstacy. You all know how the population works: hear something on the news and thats what you remember. So, from then on, that single link remains in everyones mind, and is generally seen as fact.
That doesn't work for (as mentioned) Rock and Roll. In that, some talented guy comes along, puts a lot of creativity and effort into writing songs - driven by the thought of becoming famous, becomes famous, laps up all the attention and money, then spends a fair amount of it getting wasted! They get the
im a raver not a drug addict
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whispering
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Posted - 2005/01/21 : 11:31:52
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Originally posted by dj eyebrows:
part like the red sea its me dj eyebrows in the house
Please stop spamming. Out of 7 last posts 6 are yours, you could have wrote them in 2 posts.
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m0nKeY
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Posted - 2005/01/21 : 12:24:09
I find that hardcore gives most people a natural high of happiness and euphoria and it is easy to lose yourself in the music. I do however occasionly every few months on birthdays etc drop a few pills and it just enhances the effect to a level which those who haven't tried only dream of being on. That said, it is true that the media bought this image of hardcore = pills type of attitude. But I believe it is because when you are using such a drug no-one is going to listen to any slow music because the effect makes fast feel good.
I personally wouldn't really drop pills without fast music, neither would my friends, but it doesn't have to be Hardcore, just fast.
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Ruined jon
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Posted - 2005/01/21 : 12:37:19
Pills and dance culture will always be linked, lets face it, theres nothing like a few pills and dancing all night. A lot of the music is written pesifically for people on pills, the big Euphoric breakdowns etc. House music dj Tom 'cosmos' Middleton has often talked about the different frequencies in tunes that affect different Human senses and emotions, and being on pills tunes you in to the music and you get that feeling of being lost in the music. Whenever i'm mixing on pills I find i'm far more in tune to the music than when I'm straight.
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Underloop
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Posted - 2005/01/21 : 14:39:25
The reason dance music is so closely assosciated with drugs is because it originally evolved out of a desire to make drug induced highs more euphoric..... in search of that perfect high if you like.
Since then this desire has decreased somewhat, and most music is made purely forthe love ofthe music, but poo sticks
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Soxio
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 Posted - 2005/01/21 : 15:59:12
I hate E's they just made up from random trash, someone told me there can sometimes be rat poision and random shit like that in them!!!
Say No To Drugs! They just aint worth it!
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Charco
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Posted - 2005/01/21 : 16:22:44
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Originally posted by Ruined jon:
Pills and dance culture will always be linked, lets face it, theres nothing like a few pills and dancing all night. A lot of the music is written pesifically for people on pills, the big Euphoric breakdowns etc.
I strongly disagree with that!!
A lot of the music is NOT written for people on pills....unless you have some sort of proof to prove otherwise....If you have, then I appologise. But I don't see any proof.....and have never heard the likes of Scott Brown make a tune and say "It's for pill heads"...
The music is made for the people who listen to it...not F*cking pill heads!!!
What about the people who have never touched pills (or any drugs for that matter), including myself...who love the whole scene...the music...the raves...the lot!? Are they "missing out"? It's like saying "you have to be on drugs to enhance the feeling of the music"....that's utter shite!!!
Some people may need to take drugs to get in the right "frame of mind" at raves...that's up to them..each to their own...some DON'T!! The same goes for alcohol...some need it...some don't.
To be fair....you rarely see fights and bad tempered assh*les out looking for fights at raves....Part of this is due to the apparent " happy feeling" drugs bring (I can't comment strongly on that as I've never experienced drugs)...And that there is more people high on drugs than drunk on alcohol. There is always a friendly vibe at raves...there's not so much "I'm out on the pull....look cool" but "I'm just out to have a good time....lets go ****** mental!!  ). The point of that last message is that although drugs is associated with rave (I, personally, don't like the two to be linked)...It's not necessarily a bad thing.
I just don't like to see people that take drugs, claim to have "one-over" on those who don't. (i.e. "You'll never get as good a feelin listenin to hardcore unless you drop some pills")!!
Thats me wee rant over and done with...
Slightly longer than expected though... 
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whispering
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Posted - 2005/01/21 : 17:15:10
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Originally posted by Underloop:
The reason dance music is so closely assosciated with drugs is because it originally evolved out of a desire to make drug induced highs more euphoric...
So basicly your saying that all dance producers used to be drugies?
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DarrenJ
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Posted - 2005/01/21 : 22:13:56
"And what sort of empresion do you think it that link gives people who don't listen to this type of music?"
It doesnt give much of a impact, I remember when I was young in the early 90s
being told that techno is for gay crackheads who share needle's.
The fact is its very different today, do to the fact a high percent of the youth is doing pot and cocain because of the americanized hiphop culture.
Its hard to attack someone for using drugs, if you are doing it yourself.
I think the only people who look down on ravers mostly are the ex ravers, and u can see this by there attitude towards hardcore and raves in general.... now that there mature clubbers, busy spiking drinks
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Fishy
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Posted - 2005/01/21 : 22:51:29
argh just listen to the music dont take drugs i say... if ppl think its all about the drugs its their problem...
Trancey aint cool.... cheezey and breakbeat rule!!!
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