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DjSakari
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Posted - 2009/07/21 : 23:06:57
I think hunting is the most humane way to kill and eat meat. At least those animals don't know what was coming to them and die before they knew they were even being watched.
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jenks
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Posted - 2009/07/22 : 11:18:48
quote: Originally posted by DjSakari:
I think hunting is the most humane way to kill and eat meat. At least those animals don't know what was coming to them and die before they knew they were even being watched.
No, they get shot in the side and bleed to death. Animals in abattoirs don't know what's coming, they get stunned and die while unconscious, I'd say that is more humane.
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whispering
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Posted - 2009/07/22 : 11:35:28
quote: Originally posted by jenks:
No, they get shot in the side and bleed to death. Animals in abattoirs don't know what's coming, they get stunned and die while unconscious, I'd say that is more humane.
Nah, good hunter knows where to shoot, and the animal dies fairly quickly. Otherwise the animal could run far away, if it would just bleed to death.
Farming animals live in captivity, often in really bad facilities, and are killed by various ways. Often not so quick. Also do to moronic laws by EU sometimes the animals can be travelled as long as a week to a slaughter house in really shitty containers. Small farms where the cows roam in the fields freely is a rarity.
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charlieee
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Posted - 2009/07/22 : 11:48:26
i think this is a good as time as any to tell you about a farm my family owns......we have baby cattle atm....soon to be auction off to abattoirs/ butchers etc.....when ever i look at them i get hunrgy...all i see are hamburgers and steak lol
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/07/22 : 11:55:11
quote: Originally posted by whispering:Small farms where the cows roam in the fields freely is a rarity.
definatly not rare here in the british lake district..or in england for that matter, cows in fields roaming around all over the place...and dont even get me started on the sheep!
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charlieee
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Posted - 2009/07/22 : 11:57:56
quote: Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
quote: Originally posted by whispering:Small farms where the cows roam in the fields freely is a rarity.
definatly not rare here in the british lake district..or in england for that matter, cows in fields roaming around all over the place...and dont even get me started on the sheep!
same here in aus. we have a shit load of space for cows/sheep etc
another thing that you guys might not relies is that you can tell a herbivorous from a carnivore straight off by were their eyes are situated. a herbivorous has theirs eyes on the side while a carnivore has the eyes at the front. now tell me where are your eyes and what does that mean?
i don't know bout you guys but mine are at the front and i wouldn't want to go against evolution/ Darwin theory of evolution cause that shit will fcuk you up lol
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Edited by - charlieee on 2009/07/22 12:12:02 |
whispering
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Posted - 2009/07/22 : 12:22:57
Well industrial farming is getting bigger, those small farms dont really even have a chance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_farming#Animals
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/07/22 : 12:28:07
quote: Originally posted by charlieee:
quote: Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
quote: Originally posted by whispering:Small farms where the cows roam in the fields freely is a rarity.
definatly not rare here in the british lake district..or in england for that matter, cows in fields roaming around all over the place...and dont even get me started on the sheep!
same here in aus. we have a shit load of space for cows/sheep etc
another thing that you guys might not relies is that you can tell a herbivorous from a carnivore straight off by were their eyes are situated. a herbivorous has theirs eyes on the side while a carnivore has the eyes at the front. now tell me where are your eyes and what does that mean?
i don't know bout you guys but mine are at the front and i wouldn't want to go against evolution/ Darwin theory of evolution cause that shit will fcuk you up lol
hmmm, me thinks you havent heard of an omnivore - also, crows are omnivorous.......and they have eyes situated on the sides of their heads
as with some fish..lizards and insects...
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charlieee
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Posted - 2009/07/22 : 12:43:27
quote: Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
quote: Originally posted by charlieee:
quote: Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
quote: Originally posted by whispering:Small farms where the cows roam in the fields freely is a rarity.
definatly not rare here in the british lake district..or in england for that matter, cows in fields roaming around all over the place...and dont even get me started on the sheep!
same here in aus. we have a shit load of space for cows/sheep etc
another thing that you guys might not relies is that you can tell a herbivorous from a carnivore straight off by were their eyes are situated. a herbivorous has theirs eyes on the side while a carnivore has the eyes at the front. now tell me where are your eyes and what does that mean?
i don't know bout you guys but mine are at the front and i wouldn't want to go against evolution/ Darwin theory of evolution cause that shit will fcuk you up lol
hmmm, me thinks you havent heard of an omnivore - also, crows are omnivorous.......and they have eyes situated on the sides of their heads
as with some fish..lizards and insects...
damn you,you bastard lol yeh i know but u get the general idea.
hey omnivours eat meat. it's all good
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Posted - 2009/07/22 : 13:10:28
hehe
indeed. we also evolved to be able to choose what we eat!
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2009/07/22 : 17:43:29
quote: another thing that you guys might not relies is that you can tell a herbivorous from a carnivore straight off by were their eyes are situated. a herbivorous has theirs eyes on the side while a carnivore has the eyes at the front. now tell me where are your eyes and what does that mean?
What, you can't think for yourself?
quote: Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
indeed. we also evolved to be able to choose what we eat!
And that should be the last comment in this thread.
This thread has really shown me how closed minded some people here are, which is the opposite of how this forum used to be.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/07/22 : 18:10:39
votes for a questionaire when you sign up? ;)
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2009/07/22 : 18:39:25
quote: Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
votes for a questionaire when you sign up? ;)
I don't know what you mean by that, but anyway my comment was not about what you said. I meant that your comment should be the last one because of how true it is lol.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/07/22 : 20:29:46
hehe, i know you didnt mean me - i was suggesting that perhaps we should have a questionare in the sign up process (you as in a new person/in the general sense, not you as in you personally)
"thankyou for choosing to sign up to happyhardcore.com please answer the following as honestly as possible
are you:
1. a friendly, easy to get along person
2. a headstrong, opinionated but otherwise down to earth person
3. a hatefilled individual, with a deathwish
4. a tosser
5. a troll"
etc etc ;)
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Edited by - Triquatra on 2009/07/22 21:48:51 |
kathryn
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Posted - 2009/07/22 : 21:17:18
quote: Originally posted by jenks:
quote: Originally posted by DjSakari:
I think hunting is the most humane way to kill and eat meat. At least those animals don't know what was coming to them and die before they knew they were even being watched.
No, they get shot in the side and bleed to death. Animals in abattoirs don't know what's coming, they get stunned and die while unconscious, I'd say that is more humane.
Some animals arent unconscious though and die a slow and painful death
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