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tru bass
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Posted - 2009/07/20 :  11:08:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit tru bass's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DjSakari:
Also to anyone who thinks veganism is a bad way to live because of lack of protein and calcium etc. Soy milk, soy beans, tofu, and anything else soy based is a great protein source. Soy milk actually contains more calcium than regular dairy cow milk. Also, I think it has a much more appealing taste, and a cow's milk belongs to a baby calf. Soy beans are just there....for anyone/anything.



soy beans are there for animals to eat and shit out in a field so they grow more soy plants..

not for us to eat and shit down a toilet so no soy plant grows


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Posted - 2009/07/20 :  11:48:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit atomsk's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by tru bass:
quote:
Originally posted by DjSakari:
Also to anyone who thinks veganism is a bad way to live because of lack of protein and calcium etc. Soy milk, soy beans, tofu, and anything else soy based is a great protein source. Soy milk actually contains more calcium than regular dairy cow milk. Also, I think it has a much more appealing taste, and a cow's milk belongs to a baby calf. Soy beans are just there....for anyone/anything.



soy beans are there for animals to eat and shit out in a field so they grow more soy plants..

not for us to eat and shit down a toilet so no soy plant grows




hahah exactly

not eating meat cuz you think its nasty & not healthy....and not eating it cuz its killing animals are two wayyyyyyy different things

if you think its wrong to eat something that is living,then your shit outa luck.... everything that you eat is/was alive, no matter what it was

tell me how its right to eat plants but its not right to eat meat?


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Posted - 2009/07/20 :  12:22:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Lilley's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DjSakari:
Penn and Teller are conservative ***holes. Their show Bull**** is bs in itself. Some of the points they make are ridiculous. I'm not going to be persuaded by them.



But yet you bought and were persuaded by Peta vids? My, how open minded you are.

At the end of the day, I really dont give a damn if you dont eat meat anymore, it just means more for me and everyone else that does. My gf lives with two vegetarians and while it does rub off a little bit, I make sure she has enough meat to stay healthy. As long as she doesnt start serving me tofu or some other crap it doesnt bother me to much.

As for free range being a joke... wake up. Go to a free range farm and look for yourself.
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They walk around with little to no space in their own feces because it is too much to clean it

You do realise that when the poor chickens are in the wild they have to walk around in their own feces and those of every other animal in the area as well? There arent people that walk around behind them in the wild picking up their crap whenever it tumbles out, you know. Wild deer walk around in their own shit every night and they dont care too much...

Hope your asparagus keeps you healthy!

Have a nice day.


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Posted - 2009/07/20 :  12:30:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
lol yeah - penn and teller are liberal..you cant just call them conserative just because you dont like their views haha


and surely this is the BEST video ever - they go around and get people to sign a petition banning dihydrogen monoxide.

it just shows how many people will just mindlessly follow cause's without using their own heads


this year - i will have been "vegetarian" for 20 years.

out of interest - what points exactly do they make that are so ridiculous?


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Edited by - Triquatra on 2009/07/20 12:40:46
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Posted - 2009/07/20 :  13:08:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit jenks's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DjSakari:
[quote]Originally posted by jenks:
If it's the farming methods that bother you then why not buy freerange?

Free range is a joke mate. It's a psychological trick used to make people think they're doing good. I used to get free ranged eggs. Do you realize those chickens suffer just as much as factory farmed egg laying chickens? They walk around with little to no space in their own feces because it is too much to clean it. This being, disease is common in the animals. They suffer just as much.





No, free range chickens live in fields with plenty of space, that's the whole point.



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Posted - 2009/07/20 :  13:18:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
nice quoteage - looks like you're arguing with yourself :P

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Posted - 2009/07/20 :  16:16:07  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DjSakari:
Also to anyone who thinks veganism is a bad way to live because of lack of protein and calcium etc. Soy milk, soy beans, tofu, and anything else soy based is a great protein source. Soy milk actually contains more calcium than regular dairy cow milk. Also, I think it has a much more appealing taste, and a cow's milk belongs to a baby calf. Soy beans are just there....for anyone/anything.



You don't need to eat meat to get protein your absolutely right there, and ignore anyone who says otherwise. However you need to understand the difference between stuff that just has protein in and stuff that has complete protein in (google it), as complete protein has all the essential amino acids you need in the correct ammounts.
All forms of beans and legumes (soybeans are the best source) have a good ammount of protein in and are a good alternative to meat, and a HELL of alot cheaper. Also make sure you get some other source of protein though that has the couple of amino acids that are missing from those (brown rice for example). As long as you get complete protein this way you have absolutely no need for meat at all.


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Posted - 2009/07/20 :  16:26:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Fishy's homepage  Reply with quote
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quote:
Originally posted by DjSakari:
Also to anyone who thinks veganism is a bad way to live because of lack of protein and calcium etc. Soy milk, soy beans, tofu, and anything else soy based is a great protein source. Soy milk actually contains more calcium than regular dairy cow milk. Also, I think it has a much more appealing taste, and a cow's milk belongs to a baby calf. Soy beans are just there....for anyone/anything.



You don't need to eat meat to get protein your absolutely right there, and ignore anyone who says otherwise. However you need to understand the difference between stuff that just has protein in and stuff that has complete protein in (google it), as complete protein has all the essential amino acids you need in the correct ammounts.
All forms of beans and legumes (soybeans are the best source) have a good ammount of protein in and are a good alternative to meat, and a HELL of alot cheaper. Also make sure you get some other source of protein though that has the couple of amino acids that are missing from those (brown rice for example). As long as you get complete protein this way you have absolutely no need for meat at all.



Hell ye!


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Posted - 2009/07/20 :  16:36:52  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
like i said earlyer - i havent eaten meat for almost 20 years now...and i still remain the fattest guy in my office :P

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Posted - 2009/07/20 :  16:58:11  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Fishy's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
like i said earlyer - i havent eaten meat for almost 20 years now...and i still remain the fattest guy in my office :P



u probably drink alot of bear and eat potatochips or some other snack?:P


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Posted - 2009/07/20 :  17:05:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
like i said earlyer - i havent eaten meat for almost 20 years now...and i still remain the fattest guy in my office :P



u probably drink alot of bear and eat potatochips or some other snack?:P



Let's not forget peanuts!


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Posted - 2009/07/20 :  17:15:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
lol, i dont drink - i dont like potato chips i always find them too greesy and they get stuck in my teeth


i would say the one thing that keeps me chubby
Bread and cheese ...****loads of it. :D


hmm - thats two things

(dont like nuts and im mildly allergic to them, they bring out my eczema...even so, i do like peanut butter...but not peanuts on their own...only nuts i like on their own are pistachios)


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Edited by - Triquatra on 2009/07/20 17:19:27
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Okey then:P beer is probably what keeps me abit chubby:P

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Posted - 2009/07/20 :  18:23:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
lol, i dont drink - i dont like potato chips i always find them too greesy and they get stuck in my teeth


i would say the one thing that keeps me chubby
Bread and cheese ...****loads of it. :D


hmm - thats two things

(dont like nuts and im mildly allergic to them, they bring out my eczema...even so, i do like peanut butter...but not peanuts on their own...only nuts i like on their own are pistachios)


Cheese and bread together is an even worse combination due to the fat/carb mix :P I ****ing love cheese though, it's one of the finest foods known to man!


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Posted - 2009/07/20 :  18:26:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit kathryn's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
lol, i dont drink - i dont like potato chips i always find them too greesy and they get stuck in my teeth


i would say the one thing that keeps me chubby
Bread and cheese ...****loads of it. :D


hmm - thats two things

(dont like nuts and im mildly allergic to them, they bring out my eczema...even so, i do like peanut butter...but not peanuts on their own...only nuts i like on their own are pistachios)



You do like nuts then?


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