and did you know that peta pays places like that to make the vids? you thought peta was a good cause, its not.... they use there power to harm people that do there jobs, theres alot of articles about peta and how bad they are, you need to read up on them before you think they are ohh so good.... on the same note
if you want to eat meat then go ahead , if you dont go ahead.... dont tell the the other people not to do what they want, dont tell them its bad, its there own ****ing body damn, if they want meat, if they dont... who gives a crap? let them do what they want.... its just like if someone told you "if you dont wear flip flops your a bad person", and the ones who only were sneakers say "if you dont wear sneakers your a bad person".... FFS! its there own way of life, not yours, let them do what they want and keep your damn mouth shut....
TheOneNOnly Advanced Member
United States
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Posted - 2009/07/20 : 03:56:29
PETA's agenda:
Find videos of the absolute WORST animal 'farm' and say it's all the farm's on the planet. There are no farms with high-tech gear that clean, and feed the animals. Nope. That animal farm in the back waters of shit town = all farms. Yup.
Second, let's say we're trying to help animals! Even though they kill off the majority of the animals they save because they don't have the space..But...damn...they have a pretty big ass building for their employees for being non profit.
Sorry I agree with Whispering. They do more harm then good.
atomsk Advanced Member
United States
1,660 posts Joined: Jan, 2009
Posted - 2009/07/20 : 03:59:12
quote:Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
PETA's agenda:
Find videos of the absolute WORST animal 'farm' and say it's all the farm's on the planet. There are no farms with high-tech gear that clean, and feed the animals. Nope. That animal farm in the back waters of shit town = all farms. Yup.
Second, let's say we're trying to help animals! Even though they kill off the majority of the animals they save because they don't have the space..But...damn...they have a pretty big ass building for their employees for being non profit.
Sorry I agree with Whispering. They do more harm then good.
thank you!
at lest someone reads up on things before they say its good, learn your facts kiddys =b
Meathead Advanced Member
United Kingdom
4,217 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2009/07/20 : 04:13:18
quote:Originally posted by tru bass:
quote:Originally posted by Fishy:
quote:Originally posted by tru bass:
No thanks..
we were designed as carnivores and i intend on keeping it that way
bull
at the end of the day whos the one enjoying their lovely sausage butties?
And sorry, omnivores..
Hippies, the lot of you!
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DjSakari Senior Member
United States
383 posts Joined: Jul, 2009
Posted - 2009/07/20 : 06:19:06
Penn and Teller are conservative ***holes. Their show Bull**** is bs in itself. Some of the points they make are ridiculous. I'm not going to be persuaded by them.
Brian K Advanced Member
United States
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Posted - 2009/07/20 : 06:58:50
quote:Originally posted by DjSakari:
Penn and Teller are conservative ***holes. Their show Bull**** is bs in itself. Some of the points they make are ridiculous. I'm not going to be persuaded by them.
haha they are libertarians not conservatives =P
did you even watch the videos? yes they use crude humor & clever pranks but they state several facts on peta. pretty sure good named organizations don't keep arsonists on the pay role =P
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DjSakari Senior Member
United States
383 posts Joined: Jul, 2009
Posted - 2009/07/20 : 07:03:15
I'll agree with you that Peta has a bunch of *******s. I in no way agree with the throwing of blood on peoples fur coats or anything involving destroying others' property. I would never do anything to destroy the factory farms. I just won't support them.
Peta2 is better in my opinion. From what I've seen, they're less militant. They're at all the musical festivals I go to. They just ask you to sign petitions and stuff, and if you decline, they won't even ask why.
Future_Shock Advanced Member
Australia
2,483 posts Joined: Apr, 2007
Posted - 2009/07/20 : 08:37:44
quote:Originally posted by DjSakari:
quote:Originally posted by tru bass:
No thanks..
we were designed as carnivores and i intend on keeping it that way
Then why do we have to cook meat? If we we're meant to be carnivores, we'd be able to properly digest uncooked meat.
er... you can properly digest uncooked meat. Prepared in a clean environment you most certainly can eat uncooked meat.
Not to mention peopple who have their steak cooked "blue" is basically just heated up... it's not really cooked
Back in the days before fast food chains, humans only ate wheat during winter when it was harder to hunt for meat. Our bodies haven't completely adapted to eating the amount of grains that we do, that's why so many people are gluten or wheat intolerant, or better yet, have celiac disease.
Meat has no consequence to our health for eating it. It's only beneficial in the amounts that your body NEEDS it. Society in general consumes far more protein than they need - which is a contributing factor to the overweight epidemic.
But to support a vegan appetite, you will have to take multivitamins etc to make sure that you get all the nutrients that you need.
Also, protein supports growth and healing - if you haven't finished growing yet, i wouldn't advise anyone to abstain from protein.
Starstruck Advanced Member
Australia
1,152 posts Joined: Jul, 2008
Posted - 2009/07/20 : 09:08:12
quote:Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
quote:Originally posted by DjSakari:
quote:Originally posted by tru bass:
No thanks..
we were designed as carnivores and i intend on keeping it that way
Then why do we have to cook meat? If we we're meant to be carnivores, we'd be able to properly digest uncooked meat.
er... you can properly digest uncooked meat. Prepared in a clean environment you most certainly can eat uncooked meat.
Not to mention peopple who have their steak cooked "blue" is basically just heated up... it's not really cooked
Back in the days before fast food chains, humans only ate wheat during winter when it was harder to hunt for meat. Our bodies haven't completely adapted to eating the amount of grains that we do, that's why so many people are gluten or wheat intolerant, or better yet, have celiac disease.
Meat has no consequence to our health for eating it. It's only beneficial in the amounts that your body NEEDS it. Society in general consumes far more protein than they need - which is a contributing factor to the overweight epidemic.
But to support a vegan appetite, you will have to take multivitamins etc to make sure that you get all the nutrients that you need.
Also, protein supports growth and healing - if you haven't finished growing yet, i wouldn't advise anyone to abstain from protein.
Humans can not eat all meat uncooked.
Perfect examples are Pork and Chicken. Even sausages. These carry a larvae disease called trichnosis which do affect humans.
I dont think Cattle or Sheep carry this larvae though, so i think that's why it's possible for us to eat undercooked beef or lamb meat for example.
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DjSakari Senior Member
United States
383 posts Joined: Jul, 2009
Posted - 2009/07/20 : 09:17:06
Also to anyone who thinks veganism is a bad way to live because of lack of protein and calcium etc. Soy milk, soy beans, tofu, and anything else soy based is a great protein source. Soy milk actually contains more calcium than regular dairy cow milk. Also, I think it has a much more appealing taste, and a cow's milk belongs to a baby calf. Soy beans are just there....for anyone/anything.
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