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Jester MC
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 Posted - 2010/01/08 : 22:49:57
ya i could see dubstep influencing hardcore somehow, or at least some producers givin it a whirl. i think it would be cool, being a fan of both...see i thought dubstep was UK based though, comming from grime, no?
...in canada electro is the main 'club' music by soooo far its not even a debate. but at least in toronto there is quite a healthy dubstep scene, all be it kinda tiny, but its mostly people from the jungle scene as toronto has quite a kicking jungle scene...used to be better though like every rave in this freaking city!
*edit, sweet 10 pages! :)....hopefully i have outdone my last comment lol
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8D
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Posted - 2010/01/08 : 23:28:17
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Originally posted by Jester MC:
ya i could see dubstep influencing hardcore somehow, or at least some producers givin it a whirl. i think it would be cool, being a fan of both...see i thought dubstep was UK based though, comming from grime, no?
...in canada electro is the main 'club' music by soooo far its not even a debate. but at least in toronto there is quite a healthy dubstep scene, all be it kinda tiny, but its mostly people from the jungle scene as toronto has quite a kicking jungle scene...used to be better though like every rave in this freaking city!
*edit, sweet 10 pages! :)....hopefully i have outdone my last comment lol
Dubstep influencing Hardcore is my worst nightmare
now if it were the other way around, then we would have something interesting
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2010/01/09 : 05:28:20
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And what about clubs or bigger parties? Is dubstep more popular than House or Electro in the club scene?
not sure how it is in canada, but here in the US electro is pretty much a huge club thing such as vocal trance was in the late 90s early 2000s. i don't listen 2 regular radio here but i imagine that electro is the 1 that gets airplays. i think dubstep is getting close to becoming more of a club thing, but in my area of houston it still seems to be more of a movement of a group of ppl rather than available anywhere here.
personally i think electro is ruining the edm scene here in the US. i haven't been to a rave in awhile, but i've seen videos where electro fans do nothing but stare at the dj as if they were in a standing concert. and most events hire more electro djs than anything else, even in a big state of tx we rarely see the inclusion of hardcore djs.
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Meathead
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Posted - 2010/01/09 : 15:00:55
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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
And what about clubs or bigger parties? Is dubstep more popular than House or Electro in the club scene?
Tbh you never hear either in clubs as in going out drinking on a saturday night clubs. You get commercial dance but not the Electro sound that Hardcore artists use. Well not anymore, that music was a bit of a fad round here, lasted about a month.
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now if it were the other way around, then we would have something interesting
What exactly could Dubstep take from Hardcore though? Hardcore doesn't really have a sound that distinguishes it from other genres anymore. It just rips off whatever's popular at the time.
However Old Skool Hardcore is a different matter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhiCR32xXIg
Depone & Sonwah Fresh - Old Skool Dub. Samples an Old Skool Hardcore track. Tis a bloody good tune!
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8D
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Posted - 2010/01/10 : 03:59:34
i don't really know, I would just hate for dupstep to influence hardcore
I guess you could get some synth going in dupstep
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Meathead
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Posted - 2010/01/10 : 12:17:13
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i don't really know, I would just hate for dupstep to influence hardcore
I guess you could get some synth going in dupstep
Synth? Like a Trance synth?
I can't find the tracks right now, but Lee UHF made a tune called Dubstomp and i think Stylus and AudioJunkie made a tune called Dubzone. Both were Dubstep influenced obviously and there's been a few freeform tunes to use a half time breakdown with lots of wobble. Believe me i'm as upset as you are about it but it's happening.
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Found the Stylus & AudioJunkie tune http://www.myspace.com/djalexstylus
first tune in the player, thought i'd post it, really wouldn't recommend you listen though.
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Degen223
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Posted - 2010/01/10 : 14:53:13
Lets hope it stays the same
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8D
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Posted - 2010/01/10 : 21:54:52
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by 8D:
i don't really know, I would just hate for dupstep to influence hardcore
I guess you could get some synth going in dupstep
Synth? Like a Trance synth?
I can't find the tracks right now, but Lee UHF made a tune called Dubstomp and i think Stylus and AudioJunkie made a tune called Dubzone. Both were Dubstep influenced obviously and there's been a few freeform tunes to use a half time breakdown with lots of wobble. Believe me i'm as upset as you are about it but it's happening.
EDIT
Found the Stylus & AudioJunkie tune http://www.myspace.com/djalexstylus
first tune in the player, thought i'd post it, really wouldn't recommend you listen though.
it's just terrible, why whizzid WHY?!
I guess dubstep couldn't really take much from hardcore, but I could see some gabber kicks in there, "Hardcore Dubstep" I guess?
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Meathead
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Posted - 2010/01/10 : 22:13:27
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Originally posted by 8D:
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by 8D:
i don't really know, I would just hate for dupstep to influence hardcore
I guess you could get some synth going in dupstep
Synth? Like a Trance synth?
I can't find the tracks right now, but Lee UHF made a tune called Dubstomp and i think Stylus and AudioJunkie made a tune called Dubzone. Both were Dubstep influenced obviously and there's been a few freeform tunes to use a half time breakdown with lots of wobble. Believe me i'm as upset as you are about it but it's happening.
EDIT
Found the Stylus & AudioJunkie tune http://www.myspace.com/djalexstylus
first tune in the player, thought i'd post it, really wouldn't recommend you listen though.
it's just terrible, why whizzid WHY?!
I guess dubstep couldn't really take much from hardcore, but I could see some gabber kicks in there, "Hardcore Dubstep" I guess?
Some Dubstep tunes do have Gabber kicks, but that's taking inspitration from Gabber, not Hardcore. There's really nothing anybody could rip from Hardcore, it just doesn't have a sound anymore. Maybe this is something we could see in 2010? Hardcore finally getting it's own sound instead of taking and cheapening everubody else's :p
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Ph33rViper
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Posted - 2010/01/14 : 18:38:14
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Originally posted by Rayovac:
I know a lot are hating on what's going on as of late; personally I just think some producers and labels are moving more and more towards producing for the dancefloor. i.e. Marc Smith feat. Casey - We Are Hardcore; for me this is nothing special, I wouldn't have it in my collection etc, but I seriously think it would get a crowd absolutely ripping at a party/rave. So while the scene is being benefited, a lot of primarily-home listeners are getting left in the dust (if you ask me).
I hope I worded that right, my communications skills are fail.
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Originally posted by Meathead:
Thirded. I'm getting really sick of vinyl as of late, I wish everyone would just move onto digital lossless formats already. I'm sure DJs would disapprove, but hey, there are products out there like Traktor for a reason.
Vinyl will still be around for a long time :D
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2010/01/15 : 02:01:08
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Originally posted by Ph33rViper:
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Originally posted by Rayovac:
I know a lot are hating on what's going on as of late; personally I just think some producers and labels are moving more and more towards producing for the dancefloor. i.e. Marc Smith feat. Casey - We Are Hardcore; for me this is nothing special, I wouldn't have it in my collection etc, but I seriously think it would get a crowd absolutely ripping at a party/rave. So while the scene is being benefited, a lot of primarily-home listeners are getting left in the dust (if you ask me).
I hope I worded that right, my communications skills are fail.
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Originally posted by Meathead:
Thirded. I'm getting really sick of vinyl as of late, I wish everyone would just move onto digital lossless formats already. I'm sure DJs would disapprove, but hey, there are products out there like Traktor for a reason.
Vinyl will still be around for a long time :D
apparently you don't get the inside joke of it
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