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Triquatra
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 Posted - 2009/12/22 : 11:47:46
its definatly been influenced by the rise in popularity of wigan/bouncy/scouse house
it also definatly doesnt mean its a good thing.
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Posted - 2009/12/22 : 12:38:44
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its definatly been influenced by the rise in popularity of wigan/bouncy/scouse house
it also definatly doesnt mean its a good thing.
A bad thing for you might be a good thing for other people though! At the end of the day it's the ravers who influence how the sound progresses would you not agree?
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Posted - 2009/12/22 : 14:01:32
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What will hardcore sound like in 2010? probably as daunting as it is now.
I prefer to listen to the old stuff now. Lost all interest in the new stuff.
DE JA VOUZ and all that.
If you ever leave Stu i think i know a certain youtube fanatic who'd be perfect for you Kathryn 
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Posted - 2009/12/22 : 14:09:36
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Donk & Scouse House will also be branded Old Skool as well so don't worry about that lol
Does that mean you will start liking it then? Because your so differant...
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Posted - 2009/12/22 : 15:21:26
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Donk & Scouse House will also be branded Old Skool as well so don't worry about that lol
Does that mean you will start liking it then? Because your so differant...
Im not a fan of it. But it is the same as Upfront Hardcore, only with a donk instead. Thats all the difference is.
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Posted - 2009/12/22 : 16:27:59
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A bad thing for you might be a good thing for other people though!
indeed, for some, perhaps.
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At the end of the day it's the ravers who influence how the sound progresses would you not agree?
no, not really. i would run that as a massively small influence. producers will certainly want the track to 'work' on the type of dance floor that its being aimed at. but progression doesnt come from ravers, that happens in the studio and is from artist creativity in what they want to express in their music.
"Sticking a donk on it" is the ipitomy of unoriginality and go-nowhere 'progression'
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Posted - 2009/12/22 : 16:34:36
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A bad thing for you might be a good thing for other people though!
indeed, for some, perhaps.
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At the end of the day it's the ravers who influence how the sound progresses would you not agree?
no, not really.
Haha, Well that 'bouncey' style of hardcore is probably at its height of popularity atm, well it is round my neck of the woods anyway!
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Posted - 2009/12/22 : 16:37:53
i re-edited what i wrote so it makes a little more sense
im afraid i cant really comment on what hardcore is at the height of popularity round here at the moment..
....because everybody seems to be listening to scouse house lol.
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djbood
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Posted - 2009/12/22 : 16:48:08
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i re-edited what i wrote so it makes a little more sense
im afraid i cant really comment on what hardcore is at the height of popularity round here at the moment..
....because everybody seems to be listening to scouse house lol.
Snap m8 everyone bots scouse house in the north east but hardcore is slowly getting more popular...because of the new more bouncy sound imo.
Yeah inspiration definitely comes from being in the studio and being creative, but like ya say what they produce is guna have to go down well in the club or else its not really worth producing.
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Posted - 2009/12/22 : 17:19:38
i think you are focusing too much on what i said about it 'working' on the dancefloor - i mean in the sense that it isnt wise to sit down and start writing a gabber track with the intention of playing it during a chillout set at cafe del mar or just as perhaps it wasnt wise to throw down a nu-skool breakbeat/DnB set of stuff you just made at a hardcore event during the early 2000's..
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Posted - 2009/12/22 : 17:25:48
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Me too. I certainly wont be signing tracks of the Scouse house/electro donk genre :s
Donk & Scouse House will also be branded Old Skool as well so don't worry about that lol
Dya not think bounce has had a substantial influence on hardcore over the past year or 2? I think it has...e.g. Topvibe & Sy - Pacman and nearly all of squad-es tunes among many other tunes that I cant think of right now...the trend could continue. Hardcore has definitely got bouncier. By bouncier I mean the more prominent offbeat bass and less trancey melodies...
Squad-E though has been making bounce under Hypasonic longer than hes been doing hardcore so all he has to do is make a donk track replace the donk and speed it upto 170 and hes done.
Sy & Unknown have been caining that same bouncy bassline for years so thats nothing new there.
Alot of people on this forum slate donk/bounce but tbh I dont think alot of the people actually know much about the scene. You experience of that scene is probably Ultrabeat, Alex K, Hypasonic and maybe a couple others.....They are the Hixxy, Styles and Breeze of bounce.
So in the same way that a newbie who thinks CXH6 is the be all and end all of hardcore and has never heard of HU etc is slated for being uneducated and not knowing the likes of darwin or CLSM, you guys would get slated on Time2comealive for not knowing people like Miguel Serna and Rob Cain.
All I am saying is if I only heard commercial hardcore Id have a dull opinion of it.....I can guarantee 90% of people on this forum have only heard the commercial side of bounce that is on clubland or Ultimate NRG. The problem with the bounce scene, is that there are no HU equilvalents pushing the underground guys.
Personally I enjoy donk/bounce, but not the commercial vocal stuff. Spanish donk is more my thing....a bit quicker, a bit harder and next to no singing
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Posted - 2009/12/22 : 17:29:15
craig perhaps you can enlighten us? :P
once you've heard trevor and simon - hands up from back in 2000 what more is there? ;)
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Posted - 2009/12/22 : 17:42:43
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Originally posted by djbood:
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by redwingz:
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Originally posted by CDJay:
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Not if I can help it.
CDJay
Me too. I certainly wont be signing tracks of the Scouse house/electro donk genre :s
Donk & Scouse House will also be branded Old Skool as well so don't worry about that lol
Dya not think bounce has had a substantial influence on hardcore over the past year or 2? I think it has...e.g. Topvibe & Sy - Pacman and nearly all of squad-es tunes among many other tunes that I cant think of right now...the trend could continue. Hardcore has definitely got bouncier. By bouncier I mean the more prominent offbeat bass and less trancey melodies...
Squad-E though has been making bounce under Hypasonic longer than hes been doing hardcore so all he has to do is make a donk track replace the donk and speed it upto 170 and hes done.
Sy & Unknown have been caining that same bouncy bassline for years so thats nothing new there.
Alot of people on this forum slate donk/bounce but tbh I dont think alot of the people actually know much about the scene. You experience of that scene is probably Ultrabeat, Alex K, Hypasonic and maybe a couple others.....They are the Hixxy, Styles and Breeze of bounce.
So in the same way that a newbie who thinks CXH6 is the be all and end all of hardcore and has never heard of HU etc is slated for being uneducated and not knowing the likes of darwin or CLSM, you guys would get slated on Time2comealive for not knowing people like Miguel Serna and Rob Cain.
All I am saying is if I only heard commercial hardcore Id have a dull opinion of it.....I can guarantee 90% of people on this forum have only heard the commercial side of bounce that is on clubland or Ultimate NRG. The problem with the bounce scene, is that there are no HU equilvalents pushing the underground guys.
Personally I enjoy donk/bounce, but not the commercial vocal stuff. Spanish donk is more my thing....a bit quicker, a bit harder and next to no singing
Yeah a totally agree with ya there, I would say i've got a decent knowledge of scouse/bounce/spanish donk as i've dj'd at bounce events in the past and have seen many of the household names at raves. I've heard a few serna tracks never seen him live b4 tho.
Yeah wayne worked alot under hypasonic before he changed to squade so its understandable him bringing that sound to hardcore.
To be honest i'm not ashamed to admit I love the commercial side of hardcore, not so much the cheesier tunes but i'm a big fan of all the CXH series as well as HU and COH etc....
People should just be as open minded as possible and not judge genres on either the commercial or underground sides.
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Posted - 2009/12/22 : 17:57:13
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Originally posted by redwingz:
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Originally posted by djbood:
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by redwingz:
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Originally posted by CDJay:
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Not if I can help it.
CDJay
Me too. I certainly wont be signing tracks of the Scouse house/electro donk genre :s
Donk & Scouse House will also be branded Old Skool as well so don't worry about that lol
Dya not think bounce has had a substantial influence on hardcore over the past year or 2? I think it has...e.g. Topvibe & Sy - Pacman and nearly all of squad-es tunes among many other tunes that I cant think of right now...the trend could continue. Hardcore has definitely got bouncier. By bouncier I mean the more prominent offbeat bass and less trancey melodies...
Alot of people on this forum slate donk/bounce but tbh I dont think alot of the people actually know much about the scene.
Personally I enjoy donk/bounce, but not the commercial vocal stuff. Spanish donk is more my thing....a bit quicker, a bit harder and next to no singing
knowing about the scene doesn't matter if we just plain hate the music.
and i don't mind donk myself, even the commercial stuff, but 10mins of it is my limit.
any clips u can share with us on this Spanish donk?
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Posted - 2009/12/22 : 18:17:17
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Originally posted by djbood:People should just be as open minded as possible and not judge genres on either the commercial or underground sides.
100% agree.
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