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rafferty
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 Posted - 2013/03/24 : 06:56:35
[quote]Originally posted by HollowRipper:
Breeze Mix: Good solid drum and bass mix with a few half decent hardcore tracks thrown in. Someone needs to sit him down and have a word with him. Because trying to push this style of music onto hardcore ravers is just ludicrous. And including it on a hardcore cd is just stupid.
All in all, if you lose the Breeze mix, this CD is a good solid representation of the UK hardcore scene at the moment. Lots of amazing tracks being produced, which if you compare to this time last year is 100% better! I'd have liked more Technikore on here as his productions at the moment are second to none.
I really wish people would just see Breezes music as just another subgenre of UK Hardcore. I know the traditionalists of the 2000's hardcore sound don't like it.
But really it's just adding more variety in Hardcore music.
If you listened to UK Hardcore from the early 90's a lot of it was dark and breakbeaty. Infact Breezes mix is probably more like the traditional rave than any of the other discs.
IS ALL HARDCORE, JUST HAVE FUN, OPEN YOUR MINDS AND ENJOY IT FOR WHAT IT IS INSTEAD OF BEING SO SMALL MINDED.
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DJ Hellfury
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Posted - 2013/03/24 : 08:37:38
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Originally posted by rafferty:
I really wish people would just see Breezes music as just another subgenre of UK Hardcore. I know the traditionalists of the 2000's hardcore sound don't like it.
But really it's just adding more variety in Hardcore music.
If you listened to UK Hardcore from the early 90's a lot of it was dark and breakbeaty. Infact Breezes mix is probably more like the traditional rave than any of the other discs.
IS ALL HARDCORE, JUST HAVE FUN, OPEN YOUR MINDS AND ENJOY IT FOR WHAT IT IS INSTEAD OF BEING SO SMALL MINDED.
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Samination
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Posted - 2013/03/24 : 09:59:24
I really don't remember who said it, but who said that D'n'B is a subgenre to Hardcore?
Anyways, has anyone emailed AATW about why they timestretched Hixxy's mix so poorely?
And has everyone else also noticed that this has been going on for years, and not only Hardcore?
I think I got one or 2 Hard Trance tracks (bought as singles) that are slightly time-stretched (not like Hixxy's mix) yet it's noticeable in the intro when there's only beat. To my knowledge the tracks wheren't vinyl rips, as some of the old stuff can be.
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Ravechief
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Posted - 2013/03/24 : 12:04:06
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Originally posted by Samination:
I really don't remember who said it, but who said that D'n'B is a subgenre to Hardcore?
Anyways, has anyone emailed AATW about why they timestretched Hixxy's mix so poorely?
And has everyone else also noticed that this has been going on for years, and not only Hardcore?
I think I got one or 2 Hard Trance tracks (bought as singles) that are slightly time-stretched (not like Hixxy's mix) yet it's noticeable in the intro when there's only beat. To my knowledge the tracks wheren't vinyl rips, as some of the old stuff can be.
I did message AATW and have yet to hear anything... I'd like to have a free digital download!
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Elliott
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Posted - 2013/03/24 : 14:10:30
It's not even that Hixxy's mix is timestretched, it's that it's timestretched so badly. That kind of tempo change put through something like iZotope Radius with reasonable settings would've been listenable.
Also, to anyone who thinks that Breeze's mix is "hardcore branching out", it's not. Most of it is just straight up mediocre drum & bass with drumstep elements. Once again, I'm a fan of drum & bass, but if I wanted to hear dnb, I would've just listened to one of the many better dedicated albums.
Ditto "breakbeat hardcore". To me that's just a term used to sell (often completely average) liquid/jump up to a less discerning target market (neatly avoiding being judged on the same terms as the major dnb players).
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Edited by - Elliott on 2013/03/24 14:11:53 |
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Posted - 2013/03/24 : 14:12:15
^^ Buy this man a biscuit. ^^
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djDMS
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Posted - 2013/03/24 : 15:20:18
An arse biscuit?
As much as i want to agree, i actually enjoyed the majority of Breeze's mix in a (AATW's version of what they think DnB should sound like kind of way). If i want 'proper' Drum and Bass or Hardcore I'll look elsewhere, but as a mixture of the 2 it works quite nicely.
I am (and will forever be) a massive opponent of the 'drop into nothingness' that still spoils MANY tunes, but there isn't much of that on display here.
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jenks
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Posted - 2013/03/24 : 15:25:44
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Originally posted by rafferty:
[quote]Originally posted by HollowRipper:
I really wish people would just see Breezes music as just another subgenre of UK Hardcore.
Well some of it is. The "Dubcore" and minimalist stuff is, but then to be fair, there are some straight-up DnB and Dubstep tracks in his mix as well.
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wong
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Posted - 2013/03/24 : 15:32:31
the only thing i dont really like is minimal tracks with no drop ( same as what dms says i suppose )
i can live with all the other shit.
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cruelcore1
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Posted - 2013/03/24 : 19:01:59
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Originally posted by Samination:
I really don't remember who said it, but who said that D'n'B is a subgenre to Hardcore?
Didn't it evolve of breakbeat hardcore? Well it's often hard and fast. And thats what makes Hardcore nowadays.
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wong
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Posted - 2013/03/24 : 19:04:03
its all rave
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Ravechief
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Posted - 2013/03/24 : 19:22:10
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Originally posted by Elliott:
Ditto "breakbeat hardcore". To me that's just a term used to sell (often completely average) liquid/jump up to a less discerning target market (neatly avoiding being judged on the same terms as the major dnb players).
Well breakbeat hardcore isn't really a new term! The new stuff is effectively DnB (of many styles)... but alot of the tracks have piano and old skool influences that give it a hardcore vibe. The majority sits in the middle ground between the two genres but I agree some is just DnB. When it comes to buying releases though it's nearly always listed as DnB with no reference to hardcore. It's still in the early days of resurgence so we'll see what happens in the long term.
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Samination
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Posted - 2013/03/24 : 19:56:11
so it's basicly just 1992-1994 stuff played at 174bpm+?
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DJ Hellfury
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Posted - 2013/03/24 : 20:02:46
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Originally posted by Samination:
so it's basicly just 1992-1994 stuff played at 174bpm+?
If people think that then they are lost forever in my eyes
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Ravechief
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Posted - 2013/03/24 : 20:07:54
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Originally posted by Samination:
so it's basicly just 1992-1994 stuff played at 174bpm+?
Some of it has that vibe but with new production obviously. Other stuff is more liquid/jungle/jump-up DnB oriented. It's all a mixture of stuff that can't be tied down to one little sub genre.
Coincidently a number of DnB releases lately have a happy hardcore/old skool vibe to them, either through the use of piano riffs or the acapellas used.
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